Redskins vs. Steelers Game Thread

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

THing is JC should be given some comeptition to raise his game. Why is the guy untouchable? He is not a Manning brother, Roethlisberger, Brady, McNabb, etc. He is average at best and the winning percentage of our team reflects this. It was Collins that came in when JC was hurt, went undefeated and got us in the playoffs. It is debatable at best if JC could have done the same.

He's untouchable because we have two guys who have never taken an NFL snap, and a 38 year old in a relatively foreign offense behind him.

We always had strong QB depth in the Ramsey days, but if we released all of our QBs tomorrow, only Campbell would be employed next week.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's untouchable because we have two guys who have never taken an NFL snap, and a 38 year old in a relatively foreign offense behind him.

We always had strong QB depth in the Ramsey days, but if we released all of our QBs tomorrow, only Campbell would be employed next week.

who do you see going for campbell at the moment? think he'd be a guaranteed starter?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

who do you see going for campbell at the moment? think he'd be a guaranteed starter?

Well, no, in this hypothetical he'd simply sign with someone who has an injury at quarterback. He's got starter potential, but he doesn't yet have starter value. In Jim Zorn's offense, he's a valuable quarterback. In a different offense, he's pretty replacable.

Think Byron Leftwich in 2007. In Jacksonville, he was a relative star. He lost a QB battle, got released, and was signed by Atlanta a week later. He was awful in Atlanta that year, but not at all because he was a bad quarterback.

In 2009, he's an NFL starting quarterback again, but he's lost the QB of future label for the rest of his career. Because of what happened in Jacksonville, he's now a journeyman. And it's not like he did anything wrong, necessarily. The team just thought Garrard was better.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, no, in this hypothetical he'd simply sign with someone who has an injury at quarterback. He's got starter potential, but he doesn't yet have starter value. In Jim Zorn's offense, he's a valuable quarterback. In a different offense, he's pretty replacable.

Think Byron Leftwich in 2007. In Jacksonville, he was a relative star. He lost a QB battle, got released, and was signed by Atlanta a week later. He was awful in Atlanta that year, but not at all because he was a bad quarterback.

In 2009, he's an NFL starting quarterback again, but he's lost the QB of future label for the rest of his career. Because of what happened in Jacksonville, he's now a journeyman. And it's not like he did anything wrong, necessarily. The team just thought Garrard was better.

fair enough, makes sense

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, no, in this hypothetical he'd simply sign with someone who has an injury at quarterback. He's got starter potential, but he doesn't yet have starter value. In Jim Zorn's offense, he's a valuable quarterback. In a different offense, he's pretty replacable.

Think Byron Leftwich in 2007. In Jacksonville, he was a relative star. He lost a QB battle, got released, and was signed by Atlanta a week later. He was awful in Atlanta that year, but not at all because he was a bad quarterback.

In 2009, he's an NFL starting quarterback again, but he's lost the QB of future label for the rest of his career. Because of what happened in Jacksonville, he's now a journeyman. And it's not like he did anything wrong, necessarily. The team just thought Garrard was better.

So basically we agree I guess about JC. Also Zorn's future is indeed tied in with JC's. I still think Zorn should open QB up for competition, just to motivate JC anyway.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's untouchable because we have two guys who have never taken an NFL snap, and a 38 year old in a relatively foreign offense behind him.

We always had strong QB depth in the Ramsey days, but if we released all of our QBs tomorrow, only Campbell would be employed next week.

Yeah, but we are not going to get anywhere with JC. We will always hover around .500 ball. And as for the Ramsey days? Shane Matthews and Danny Wuerffel? Strong QB depth my ass!!!!