"Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers"

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Is it just me od do you guys feel that Zorn tried to run too much inside the redzone?
ran 3 in a row with starters. JC can move,why not try a rollout?
ok,time for practice.

I think it's defensible trying to convert a 3rd and 2 from the 3 yard line because he barely needs a positive result to get a fresh set of downs. Betts might actually have gotten to the sticks on the second down run, in which case, the one yard loss simply gives a 2nd and goal at the two.

I think that if you are going to run it twice, you should be able to run it three times, but I guess you have to get the kicker into the game sometime.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Is it just me od do you guys feel that Zorn tried to run too much inside the redzone?
ran 3 in a row with starters. JC can move,why not try a rollout?
ok,time for practice.

Zorn stinks at calling plays IMO. It's the freakin pre season and he's running the damn ball which wasn't the problem last year. I'd be throwing it almost every down.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Zorn stinks at calling plays IMO. It's the freakin pre season and he's running the damn ball which wasn't the problem last year. I'd be throwing it almost every down.

Well, with guys like Dockery, Bridges, Rinehart expected to get playing time they didn't get last year it's important I think to get them some reps run blocking.

Still, it's a fine line in the preseason between just tossing plays out there and trying to simulate regular season offensive scenarios.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Is it just me od do you guys feel that Zorn tried to run too much inside the redzone?
ran 3 in a row with starters. JC can move,why not try a rollout?
ok,time for practice.

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Zorn stinks at calling plays IMO. It's the freakin pre season and he's running the damn ball which wasn't the problem last year. I'd be throwing it almost every down.

I think that Zorn is wasting the preseason.
He's admits that he hasn't been game planning:

"I guess a week ago, I felt like we were just running plays. It was like a practice, we didn't gameplan much; [this week] we gameplanned a little bit more. Our guys were much more intent on improving, because they could see what was going on on video. And they did, they showed much more enthusiasm for playing. They kind of understood some of the moments of the game, the fourth downs, the third downs"
Redskins Blog -- The Official Blog of the Washington Redskins

Heck he isn't even running plays that they rep'd in practice:

"It was close,” said Kelly. “The crazy thing, though, is that me and Jason never practiced that route all week long. The first time we ran it was in the game. We'll get it done,
though—we'll complete it next time."
http://www.theomfield.com/2009/08/re...-qb-jason.html

Meanwhile other teams are gameplanning and playing their starters for most of the 1st half.

JC hasn't even played enough to struggle.
I don't know what Zorn is doing, but i wish he was working on the offense.
The playcalling in the RZ was :confused:

I thought that we needed to work on the passing game especially the RZ.
But, Zorn chose not to call a fade route to Kelly or Thomas.
He didn't even call 1 RZ pass.
But, Zorn seemed to save his best playcalling for the 3rd team offense.

*Edit*- I'll be surprised if the passing game looks sharp against the Pats.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Is it just me od do you guys feel that Zorn tried to run too much inside the redzone?
ran 3 in a row with starters. JC can move,why not try a rollout?
ok,time for practice.

I was really p o 'd that on either 2nd and definitely 3rd, JC didn't fake the handoff, I think he would have walked in on the backside. I only hope that it is all in the playbook, and JZ just is keeping it basic. But a qb endaround would have given JC a lot of credo (especially if you walked a TE that way too) yes that ticked me off.

[warriorzpath]

... I'm not sitting through this again. This is dejavu - the other qb was named ramsey.

[wilsowilso]

I'm excited about JC this year. He might crash and burn, but I think he has a great chance to take the next step. He has some limitations, but he also has plenty of strengths. If the WR corps takes a positive step forward I like his chances even more.

[53Fan]

In all fairness to Zorn, the Ravens didn't gameplan the first preseason game either.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

In all fairness, the Ravens didn't gameplan the first preseason game either.

Really?

I live in Baltimore and the talk from Ravens camp has been that Cameron planned to open up the offense.

And guess what?

In the preseason game against us the Ravens put Flacco in shotgun and spread the field and passed the ball 15 times 2 more then JC has thrown the entire preseason.

And the Ravens were blitzing on defense, which used to be no-no for preseason.

*The rules for preseason have changed and Zorn is behind the curve.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Really?

I live in Baltimore and the talk from Ravens camp has been that Cameron planned to open up the offense.

And guess what?

In the preseason game against us the Ravens put Flacco in shotgun and spread the field and passed the ball 15 times 2 more then JC has thrown the entire preseason.

And the Ravens were blitzing on defense, which used to be no-no for preseason.

*The rules for preseason have changed and Zorn is behind the curve.

Ravens-Redskins Preview: Conservative will be the Theme | Luke Jones’ Blog | WNST

[Dirtbag59]

Did Campbell have a good camp? I mean we're hearing a ton of praise about Orakpo and Mitchell so it kind of worries me that no one seems to be saying anything about JC.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Did Campbell have a good camp? I mean we're hearing a ton of praise about Orakpo and Mitchell so it kind of worries me that no one seems to be saying anything about JC.

Following the rapid reports, I think it could best be described as up and down. I think it was obvious by the way the reports were written that he was outplaying Colt and Todd Collins, but I'm thinking that Chase Daniel is the only guy who has been truly exceeded his relative expectations.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Ravens-Redskins Preview: Conservative will be the Theme | Luke Jones’ Blog | WNST

From your link:
“In the preseason, I want [Flacco] to throw completions,” offensive coordinator Cam Camerson said. “That could be up the field [or] underneath. I want to see completions inside the numbers, up the field, sideline to sideline. That’s what we’re going to try to do this preseason. For us to improve our offense, we’ve got to throw the football better. Obviously, it starts with the quarterback.”

^^That's exactly what they did.
They weren't conservative, Cameron was trying to get their passing game going.

Their starting QB threw 15 times ours threw 6 times.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

From your link:
“In the preseason, I want [Flacco] to throw completions,” offensive coordinator Cam Camerson said. “That could be up the field [or] underneath. I want to see completions inside the numbers, up the field, sideline to sideline. That’s what we’re going to try to do this preseason. For us to improve our offense, we’ve got to throw the football better. Obviously, it starts with the quarterback.”

^^That's exactly what they did.
They weren't conservative, Cameron was trying to get their passing game going.

Their starting QB threw 15 times ours threw 6 times.

You are correct. They ran what they wanted to see and so did we. What I said was in all fairness to Zorn, the Ravens didn't gameplan either. They didn't filmsearch for our weaknesse's and put together a plan of attack to beat us. Everyone wants to see their QB's make completions. They ran what they wanted to see. Harbaugh says in the article, "We're not going to gameplan against them, and they're not going to gameplan against us. Maybe our misunderstanding with each other comes from the word "against". They didn't "study" us and put forth a gameplan. They ran plays they wanted to see, so in that light, yes, they gameplanned. My bad. Cool?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 30gut

From your link:
“In the preseason, I want [Flacco] to throw completions,” offensive coordinator Cam Camerson said. “That could be up the field [or] underneath. I want to see completions inside the numbers, up the field, sideline to sideline. That’s what we’re going to try to do this preseason. For us to improve our offense, we’ve got to throw the football better. Obviously, it starts with the quarterback.”

^^That's exactly what they did.
They weren't conservative, Cameron was trying to get their passing game going.

Their starting QB threw 15 times ours threw 6 times.

I was watching the Balt. too and it got me even more mad at Zorn. Cameron knows what he's doing.