Collins locks up the #2 job, Colt and Chase fighting for the #3

[SouperMeister]

I've always been a skeptic of any QB that put up ridiculous college numbers with the Run & Shoot, the Spread or any other quirky passing offense, all of which I will refer to as the Chuck & Duck. The number of QBs who flamed out after running a C&D system in college is a long one. Remember Timmy Chang, who preceded Colt at Hawaii? How about Andre Ware, David Klingler, Danny Weurffel, Kliff Kingsbury, Tim Couch, etc. Yes, Chase ran a Spread O at Mizzou, but he certainly looks a lot more disciplined, yet decisive than Colt IMO. And to those who were calling for Colt over Jason - that notion is downright laughable.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

And to those who were calling for Colt over Jason - that notion is downright laughable.

Wow....did someone really say that?

Going to fan day last year, the difference in Soup and Colt was pretty crazy. JC's throws look like lasers, and Colt's look like lollipops, there really is no comparision IMO. If we are just comparing physically, its not even fair, Soup is a much more talented player. Now mentally we need them both to step up and start making some better reads with the ball. With our running game, and a stellar defense, the last thing we need is a gunslinger, at least Soup is taking care of the ball. Now if he can just start putting some numbers on the board, Ill be very happy. Im looking forward to Fridays game, hopefully the starters will play the entire first half.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I've always been a skeptic of any QB that put up ridiculous college numbers with the Run & Shoot, the Spread or any other quirky passing offense, all of which I will refer to as the Chuck & Duck. The number of QBs who flamed out after running a C&D system in college is a long one. Remember Timmy Chang, who preceded Colt at Hawaii? How about Andre Ware, David Klingler, Danny Weurffel, Kliff Kingsbury, Tim Couch, etc. Yes, Chase ran a Spread O at Mizzou, but he certainly looks a lot more disciplined, yet decisive than Colt IMO. And to those who were calling for Colt over Jason - that notion is downright laughable.

How bout Jim Kelly and Warren Moon? both played in the R&S before coming to the NFL. Both were very good if i remember correctly.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

How bout Jim Kelly and Warren Moon? both played in the R&S before coming to the NFL. Both were very good if i remember correctly.

My point was COLLEGE QB's that put up ridiculous numbers running a "Chuck & Duck" system should be looked upon with scrutiny. Warren Moon and Jim Kelly were GREAT college QBs running more traditional systems. They were going to succeed at the next level regardless of the system. It was Moon's misfortune that NFL GMs weren't colorblind after leading Washington to a Rose Bowl victory. He took a strange route to NFL stardom, starting his pro career in the CFL.

I can only think of a few C&D college QB's who've had success at the next level - Neil Lomax and Ty Detmer (marginal success) come to mind. I'm sure I've missed others, but for the record, I do like Tim Tebow a lot. He's definitely a high-character type that I always root for.