"Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers"

[warriorzpath]

I just don't get the way that some purposely overlook plays that Campbell failed in. what the hell is the excuse for missing moss for 10 yards and a 3rd down conversion. it's just preseason ... please. are u all saying that he misses that because it's just preseason or maybe he just didn't get enough snaps. or maybe it was against last year's 1st ranked defense (even though the defense had nothing to do with the incompletion). lets face it, whatever it was ,there really is not an excuse for this play.

And why is this play along with his other plays this preseason meaningless? the only meaningless thing for the players in preseason is the score. When the players are in there, they compete the way they would during the season. Just look at Haynesworth, or ask Brennan or Daniels if it is meaningless. Shoot even mister anti-preseason, Portis, hurt his shoulder to prevent a defensive td in a preseason game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I just don't get the way that some purposely overlook plays that Campbell failed in. what the hell is the excuse for missing moss for 10 yards and a 3rd down conversion. it's just preseason ... please. are u all saying that he misses that because it's just preseason or maybe he just didn't get enough snaps. or maybe it was against last year's 1st ranked defense (even though the defense had nothing to do with the incompletion). lets face it, whatever it was ,there really is not an excuse for this play.

And why is this play along with his other plays this preseason meaningless? the only meaningless thing for the players in preseason is the score. When the players are in there, they compete the way they would during the season. Just look at Haynesworth, or ask Brennan or Daniels if it is meaningless. Shoot even mister anti-preseason, Portis, hurt his shoulder to prevent a defensive td in a preseason game.

1) errant/dropped pass. Much like wild pitch vs. passed ball, it's two different sets of blame for something that is exactly the same outcome. You also mention that the defense had "nothing" to do with the incompletion, but there were two Steelers defenders in close proximity to the pass.

The play is not meaningless. It's just that, a (one) play. Who cares?

2)You already know that players who aren't expected to play much in the regular season need to value the preseason, way, way more than anyone who goes into the preseason with no competition on their job. For somebody like Campbell, it's just a tune up. What he gets from it is 100x more important than what he does in it. But for third stringers like Daniel/Brennan, what they do in it is arguably more important than what they get from it.

3) The preseason has never, ever been about first string quarterbacks. This is the fatal flaw in your argument.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

1) errant/dropped pass. Much like wild pitch vs. passed ball, it's two different sets of blame for something that is exactly the same outcome. You also mention that the defense had "nothing" to do with the incompletion, but there were two Steelers defenders in close proximity to the pass.

The play is not meaningless. It's just that, a (one) play. Who cares?

2)You already know that players who aren't expected to play much in the regular season need to value the preseason, way, way more than anyone who goes into the preseason with no competition on their job. For somebody like Campbell, it's just a tune up. What he gets from it is 100x more important than what he does in it. But for third stringers like Daniel/Brennan, what they do in it is arguably more important than what they get from it.

3) The preseason has never, ever been about first string quarterbacks. This is the fatal flaw in your argument.

Did you see Brady after his first interception in his first game back from his injury? He was pissed. And I should remind you that this was preseason and that as an understatement that he is a proven winner. If he cares about how he is performing in preseason and feels he has something to prove (even in preseason) then I think your #3 statement is definitely your fatal flaw in your argument.

And who cares? Everyone should. If campbell made a play earlier or even after this play, then yeah who cares cause he made up for it by making a good play - but he didn't. The best thing that he did for a majority of the game was throwing the ball away.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Did you see Brady after his first interception in his first game back from his injury? He was pissed. And I should remind you that this was preseason and that as an understatement that he is a proven winner. If he cares about how he is performing in preseason and feels he has something to prove (even in preseason) then I think your #3 statement is definitely your fatal flaw in your argument.

And who cares? Everyone should. If campbell made a play earlier or even after this play, then yeah who cares cause he made up for it by making a good play - but he didn't. The best thing that he did for a majority of the game was throwing the ball away.

Good. Tom Brady, preseason hero. I like the ring to it.

Some quarterbacks haven't been picked off in this preseason, but you know, that's alright.

Either you understand the relative value of one quarter of preseason performance, or you don't. There's really no middle ground here.