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Old 08-27-2009, 12:44 PM   #1
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Re: Problem w/ Cowboys giant screen.

PFT reported that U2 was paying 2MM to raise the scoreboard before a concert at Cowboys Stadium so their stage can fit underneath and then lower it after the concert.

My first thought after hearing this, why on earth would U2 pay 2MM to do this... it most certainly would be cheaper to use an alternate stage setup than what they would typically use.

My second thought was, how can it possibly cost 2MM to raise and lower the thing? Thats ridiculous.

My third thought was, why isnt there a mechanical lift system in place to raise and lower the screens as needed?

And Finally, why is Jerrah being such a punk about all this? Let U2 pay 1MM to raise the thing, leave it up, and call it a day. Jerry won't have to pay for it, the NFL won't have to pay for it, U2 will save 1MM, and we won't have to worry about NFL games being adversely affected due to a stoopid decision to hang the screens only 90feet above the field.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:03 PM   #2
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PFT reported that U2 was paying 2MM to raise the scoreboard before a concert at Cowboys Stadium so their stage can fit underneath and then lower it after the concert.

My first thought after hearing this, why on earth would U2 pay 2MM to do this... it most certainly would be cheaper to use an alternate stage setup than what they would typically use.

My second thought was, how can it possibly cost 2MM to raise and lower the thing? Thats ridiculous.

My third thought was, why isnt there a mechanical lift system in place to raise and lower the screens as needed?

And Finally, why is Jerrah being such a punk about all this? Let U2 pay 1MM to raise the thing, leave it up, and call it a day. Jerry won't have to pay for it, the NFL won't have to pay for it, U2 will save 1MM, and we won't have to worry about NFL games being adversely affected due to a stoopid decision to hang the screens only 90feet above the field.
To raise it up for the U2 concert, requires the scoreboard to be disconnected and it will be inoperable at that height. So for Jones, leaving it up at that height is simply not an option on his table.

Of course the height of a scoreboard above a stadium ranks about a 2.0 on my give-a-crapometer to be honest.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:28 PM   #3
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To raise it up for the U2 concert, requires the scoreboard to be disconnected and it will be inoperable at that height. So for Jones, leaving it up at that height is simply not an option on his table.

Of course the height of a scoreboard above a stadium ranks about a 2.0 on my give-a-crapometer to be honest.
With a screen that big, i'm sure they could dedicate a portion of each side of it to a digatal, on-screen scoreboard. Personally, i'd love to see the screen get irreprably damaged by consistently getting whacked by punters.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:42 PM   #4
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To raise it up for the U2 concert, requires the scoreboard to be disconnected and it will be inoperable at that height. So for Jones, leaving it up at that height is simply not an option on his table.

Of course the height of a scoreboard above a stadium ranks about a 2.0 on my give-a-crapometer to be honest.
I'm not picking on you, sandtrap, but the concept that you mentioned: if you raise the scoreboard it becomes inoperable? That is one of the dumbest things that I have ever read.

Here's why: no backup plan. It had to have occurred to someone that the screens might turn out to be too low. An intelligent person, armed with $1.2 billion, would then plan the screens so that they could be moved up, if they proved to be an obstacle.

Yet, armed with $1.2 billion, Jerry had no backup plan other than do-overs.

Putting in screens which work at only one, problematic height is pure stupidity.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:54 PM   #5
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I'm not picking on you, sandtrap, but the concept that you mentioned: if you raise the scoreboard it becomes inoperable? That is one of the dumbest things that I have ever read.

Here's why: no backup plan. It had to have occurred to someone that the screens might turn out to be too low. An intelligent person, armed with $1.2 billion, would then plan the screens so that they could be moved up, if they proved to be an obstacle.

Yet, armed with $1.2 billion, Jerry had no backup plan other than do-overs.

Putting in screens which work at only one, problematic height is pure stupidity.
Actually, I do understand the part about raising it making it in operable. Heck, you move your dvd player in the wrong place and all the wiring gets shot and you have to redo it. I imagine the wiring to maintain the HD image is incredibly complex, as there are xzillion different screens within it. I would imagine that they could have put incremental stopping points and pipe the wires to each of those, but I think Jerry really wanted this controversy. I also think it is set so that he has the perfect view of it from his perch, and he doesn't want to give that up by the 5-10 feet he would need to raise it. Certainly not the 25 feet U2 wants it raised.

I think more than stupid, it is just arrogant, but hey that is the Cowboy way.
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Old 08-27-2009, 05:00 PM   #6
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Actually, I do understand the part about raising it making it in operable. Heck, you move your dvd player in the wrong place and all the wiring gets shot and you have to redo it. I imagine the wiring to maintain the HD image is incredibly complex, as there are xzillion different screens within it. I would imagine that they could have put incremental stopping points and pipe the wires to each of those, but I think Jerry really wanted this controversy. I also think it is set so that he has the perfect view of it from his perch, and he doesn't want to give that up by the 5-10 feet he would need to raise it. Certainly not the 25 feet U2 wants it raised.

I think more than stupid, it is just arrogant, but hey that is the Cowboy way.
That's because Jerry knows that if he raises his chin too high all the stitches and staples will pop and the leather mask that is his face will go flying out of his luxury box and onto the field where it will become a banana-peel like obstacle that could end up getting someone hurt. And no one wants that.
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That's because Jerry knows that if he raises his chin too high all the stitches and staples will pop and the leather mask that is his face will go flying out of his luxury box and onto the field where it will become a banana-peel like obstacle that could end up getting someone hurt. And no one wants that.
Well, almost no one, I personally would scrape up the money for the flight hotel game tickets in seats right below his perch.
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That's because Jerry knows that if he raises his chin too high all the stitches and staples will pop and the leather mask that is his face will go flying out of his luxury box and onto the field where it will become a banana-peel like obstacle that could end up getting someone hurt. And no one wants that.
If Jerry is seeking attention, it worked with me, because I had a bad dream last night in which he was the central character (I kid not).

Now, with the images you've provided, I never want to sleep again.
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If Jerry is seeking attention, it worked with me, because I had a bad dream last night in which he was the central character (I kid not).

Now, with the images you've provided, I never want to sleep again.
OMG MAN! Are you alright Lotus? No one..and I mean NO ONE..should be subjected to that kind of abuse! The horror...the horror......
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That's because Jerry knows that if he raises his chin too high all the stitches and staples will pop and the leather mask that is his face will go flying out of his luxury box and onto the field where it will become a banana-peel like obstacle that could end up getting someone hurt. And no one wants that.
LMAO!

If his staples did pop, would that be a do-over too?
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LMAO!

If his staples did pop, would that be a do-over too?
Too too too funny.
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To raise it up for the U2 concert, requires the scoreboard to be disconnected and it will be inoperable at that height. So for Jones, leaving it up at that height is simply not an option on his table.

Of course the height of a scoreboard above a stadium ranks about a 2.0 on my give-a-crapometer to be honest.
If what you are saying is true....I can not believe any multi-purpose arena/stadium would ever design and build a center scoreboard of this size that is this difficult to raise and lower? Also that it can not be operated at another height? That is extremely short sighted and stupid.
The fact that they already (in its very short existence) have to pay to raise it for a concert is proof that they need a height adjustable board in this type of business.
I am an Arena Operations Manger and our HD center board while smaller, has to be height adjustable. We have to adjust the height for every event. Our board is designed to work at any height and it can be lowered all the way down to the floor for repairs or for viewing party's of away playoff games. We could not operate if our board did not move.Wiring is not an issue at all.
Plus boards and components on these screens go out and need fairly regular maintenance and repair. They are going to have to pay huge money to rent lifts to get up there to repair it.
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If what you are saying is true....I can not believe any multi-purpose arena/stadium would ever design and build a center scoreboard of this size that is this difficult to raise and lower? Also that it can not be operated at another height? That is extremely short sighted and stupid.
The fact that they already (in its very short existence) have to pay to raise it for a concert is proof that they need a height adjustable board in this type of business.
I am an Arena Operations Manger and our HD center board while smaller, has to be height adjustable. We have to adjust the height for every event. Our board is designed to work at any height and it can be lowered all the way down to the floor for repairs or for viewing party's of away playoff games. We could not operate if our board did not move.Wiring is not an issue at all.
Plus boards and components on these screens go out and need fairly regular maintenance and repair. They are going to have to pay huge money to rent lifts to get up there to repair it.
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If what you are saying is true....I can not believe any multi-purpose arena/stadium would ever design and build a center scoreboard of this size that is this difficult to raise and lower? Also that it can not be operated at another height? That is extremely short sighted and stupid.
This is Dallas...it's not the first stadium goof. The stupidity is mandated from the top in that organization.
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