the new health care?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

from your link:


I said that both parties practice it and that the Democrats took it to new heights, to which you provided the link saying my statement was false. Clearly, the 110 Congress went to an extreme in this practice, and I included the 104 Congress to show that Republicans had indeed used it, but clearly not at the same pace.
What part of my statement were you trying to disprove with your link?
If it was the since Clinton portion and you were saying it goes back to 72, ok, I didn't date it far enough back. My basic point was still valid.

Your statement is false because you stated that the Democrats took it to new heights against Bush. Relative to previous sessions when Clinton was in office, which is the point of reference in your statement, your claim isn't true. When you compare the 104rd congress with the 103th congress which saw a ~36% increase compared to the previous congress (102nd) you are still standing in the invalid circle.


If you really want to speak to the issue of taking things to new heights you would hit the jackpot with 110th congress.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

Your statement is false because you stated that the Democrats took it to new heights against Bush. Relative to previous sessions when Clinton was in office, which is the point of reference in your statement, your claim isn't true. When you compare the 104rd congress with the 103th congress which saw a ~36% increase compared to the previous congress (102nd) you are still standing in the invalid circle.


If you really want to speak to the issue of taking things to new heights you would hit the jackpot with 110th congress.

which was a democratic congress with Bush. so I was right??

anyway, its a political tactic, that is valid and has been used more and more over the past 38 years.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

which was a democratic congress with Bush. so I was right??

anyway, its a political tactic, that is valid and has been used more and more over the past 38 years.

You are not right. Let me break down the 110th congress for you:

1. Bush was in office.
2. The Democrats are in control.
3. The Democrats have full control of what gets or doesn't get to the floor for a vote. If they choose to do so they can reject any bill proposed by the other-side from getting to the floor but that's really not good politics.
4. Republicans use the filibusterer to stop them from passing all the bills they bring to the floor with a simple majority up-and-down vote.
5. Democrats call for Cloture vote to stop debate. The cloture procedure is just to see if the other side really has 41 votes and force the issue.
6. If cloture fails the filibusterer is successful.

So in that 110th congress the people doing filibustering are the people who don't have power, the Republicans. The correct assessment of the 110th congress would be:

With Bush in office and Democrats in charge of both houses Republican senators took filibustering to new heights to stop the Democrats' agenda.