Randy Moss = no class

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Curious why some people seem so fired up against Tanner?

In the end is this really a big deal? Someone blogs about an athlete who was a jerk to him/her. Wow, shocker. I'm sure there are plenty of blogs out there with very similar accounts of a pro athlete acting like a dick. Personally I just found it entertaining so that's why I linked to it.

Why the animosity towards Tanner and the blog? Perhaps a little bit of underlying jealousy?

Although I came off as dry and direct I don't think working on your brother's blog is badby any means, as you all know I like to call a spade a spade. He is riding coattails, holding jocks, etc. If Tanner wasn't related to Cooley then Tanner isn't interviewing/blogging. This is all a fact. Also I think the post on Cooley's blog was wrong, like Skinny Tee said. Tanner just got really emotional for no reason. If he wants to interview, get use to it. I freaking worked for my college newspaper. I've interviewed important people (st. governor, katie couric, etc.) and sometimes people are mean, but don't judge based on that one situation.

Also Tanner posted on this site to basically tell us he is right and stop this thread. If you go back and read his language he said "don't bitch here, send me an email". He doesn't want bad publicity. Grow up Tanner, this is what happens when you post stuff on a blog. It gets reviewed and critiqued. If anything Tanner should be overjoyed his post is getting this much attention.

Finally, to be in situation that Tanner is in, is great.I don't think anyone denies that. Does that mean I am jealous and I would do anything to be in his shoes? No. Just because I think someone is wrong, and I follow that with facts and reasonable arguments does not mean I am jealous. I think that is a bit of stretch Matty.


One more note, I also like reading the blog, just FYI Tanner. It is usually good stuff. Chris was a pioneer in blogging as an athlete, and now everyone is doing it. But again, if someone is wrong IMO I will let them know. This is just who I am, and this is a forum.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Although I came off as dry and direct I don't think working on your brother's blog is badby any means, as you all know I like to call a spade a spade. He is riding coattails, holding jocks, etc. If Tanner wasn't related to Cooley then Tanner isn't interviewing/blogging. This is all a fact. Also I think the post on Cooley's blog was wrong, like Skinny Tee said. Tanner just got really emotional for no reason. If he wants to interview, get use to it. I freaking worked for my college newspaper. I've interviewed important people (st. governor, katie couric, etc.) and sometimes people are mean, but don't judge based on that one situation.

Also Tanner posted on this site to basically tell us he is right and stop this thread. If you go back and read his language he said "don't bitch here, send me an email". He doesn't want bad publicity. Grow up Tanner, this is what happens when you post stuff on a blog. It gets reviewed and critiqued. If anything Tanner should be overjoyed his post is getting this much attention.

Finally, to be in situation that Tanner is in, is great.I don't think anyone denies that. Does that mean I am jealous and I would do anything to be in his shoes? No. Just because I think someone is wrong, and I follow that with facts and reasonable arguments does not mean I am jealous. I think that is a bit of stretch Matty.


One more note, I also like reading the blog, just FYI Tanner. It is usually good stuff. Chris was a pioneer in blogging as an athlete, and now everyone is doing it. But again, if someone is wrong IMO I will let them know. This is just who I am, and this is a forum.

I was just tossing that out there, otherwise I'm still confused why some, including yourself, are acting so dicky towards him.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I was just tossing that out there, otherwise I'm still confused why some, including yourself, are acting so dicky towards him.

I think it's because those people view Tanner's post as bitchy and whining I would assume. Me I don't care either way. Freedom of speech right???? Moss has the right to decline interviews in the way "HE" sees fit, doesn't matter what we think. But, on the flip side Tanner also has the right to post whatever he wants. He didn't make any threats toward Moss or anyone else. Oh and Hooskins, not that it matters but who does want bad press????

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I was just tossing that out there, otherwise I'm still confused why some, including yourself, are acting so dicky towards him.

The point has been well covered by others, but I think the problem that some of us have with this particular blog post is that Tanner appears at least as "unprofessional" as Randy Moss. When you lead with the line "I'm Chris Cooley's brother, can I get an interview" that is meant to garner access based upon your relation to Chris Cooley. That is fine, I guess, since much of life is about who you know, but as Skinny Tee mentioned, the "professional" thing to do would probably be to identify yourself as representing thecooleyzone.com. "I'm Chris Cooley's brother" implies that you expect some access based upon your identity and why should that mean anything to Randy Moss? Sure he could have responded better, but it is certainly not a surprising response.

But the real issue is that none of us should ever have known about that interaction. To go out of your way to Tweet, Facebook, and Blog about it is unnecessary. You had a bad experience with a professional athlete. If you were just another individual and that happened to you then I think you probably could blog all you wanted about it and that would be fine. But you are representing Chris Cooley (as you yourself made clear in the locker room) and you should not be getting into personal pissing matches with other professional athletes on his website. It is just bad policy and, frankly, unprofessional. You don't need to call Randy Moss a "dick" on Facebook or write long diatribes about your experience. It is just not a very mature of professional response. It was a mistake on his part. It is also ironic for him to then come on to this website and say that if you have a problem with it that you should email him directly rather than posting your response in a public forum.

And all of that is not a personal attack on Tanner Cooley. It is a critique of this one blog post. That is what HooSkins, SkinnyTee, and others were saying. He made a mistake. He should learn from the experience.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

The point has been well covered by others, but I think the problem that some of us have with this particular blog post is that Tanner appears at least as "unprofessional" as Randy Moss. When you lead with the line "I'm Chris Cooley's brother, can I get an interview" that is meant to garner access based upon your relation to Chris Cooley. That is fine, I guess, since much of life is about who you know, but as Skinny Tee mentioned, the "professional" thing to do would probably be to identify yourself as representing thecooleyzone.com. "I'm Chris Cooley's brother" implies that you expect some access based upon your identity and why should that mean anything to Randy Moss? Sure he could have responded better, but it is certainly not a surprising response.

But the real issue is that none of us should ever have known about that interaction. To go out of your way to Tweet, Facebook, and Blog about it is unnecessary. You had a bad experience with a professional athlete. If you were just another individual and that happened to you then I think you probably could blog all you wanted about it and that would be fine. But you are representing Chris Cooley (as you yourself made clear in the locker room) and you should not be getting into personal pissing matches with other professional athletes on his website. It is just bad policy and, frankly, unprofessional. You don't need to call Randy Moss a "dick" on Facebook or write long diatribes about your experience. It is just not a very mature of professional response. It was a mistake on his part. It is also ironic for him to then come on to this website and say that if you have a problem with it that you should email him directly rather than posting your response in a public forum.

And all of that is not a personal attack on Tanner Cooley. It is a critique of this one blog post. That is what HooSkins, SkinnyTee, and others were saying. He made a mistake. He should learn from the experience.

Very well said, I totally agree. Like I said before, if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

The point has been well covered by others, but I think the problem that some of us have with this particular blog post is that Tanner appears at least as "unprofessional" as Randy Moss. When you lead with the line "I'm Chris Cooley's brother, can I get an interview" that is meant to garner access based upon your relation to Chris Cooley. That is fine, I guess, since much of life is about who you know, but as Skinny Tee mentioned, the "professional" thing to do would probably be to identify yourself as representing thecooleyzone.com. "I'm Chris Cooley's brother" implies that you expect some access based upon your identity and why should that mean anything to Randy Moss? Sure he could have responded better, but it is certainly not a surprising response.

But the real issue is that none of us should ever have known about that interaction. To go out of your way to Tweet, Facebook, and Blog about it is unnecessary. You had a bad experience with a professional athlete. If you were just another individual and that happened to you then I think you probably could blog all you wanted about it and that would be fine. But you are representing Chris Cooley (as you yourself made clear in the locker room) and you should not be getting into personal pissing matches with other professional athletes on his website. It is just bad policy and, frankly, unprofessional. You don't need to call Randy Moss a "dick" on Facebook or write long diatribes about your experience. It is just not a very mature of professional response. It was a mistake on his part. It is also ironic for him to then come on to this website and say that if you have a problem with it that you should email him directly rather than posting your response in a public forum.

And all of that is not a personal attack on Tanner Cooley. It is a critique of this one blog post. That is what HooSkins, SkinnyTee, and others were saying. He made a mistake. He should learn from the experience.

I can certainly understand that point of view. I guess I just don't see where it was a huge deal either way. Moss was a prick and someone blogged about it.

The part I find interesting is those that seem to justify Moss being rude. I'm not sure that what Tanner did was so out of line to justify someone treating him like that. Perhaps he could have just brushed it off as no big deal and moved on, but I guess he was thinking it would be something worthwhile to blog about, and based on the amount of discussion it's generated I have think that it was.

Also, we're talking about a blog here, not a legit news source. If this was Jason Reid of the WaPo posting stuff like this I would agree it's way out of line.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Also, we're talking about a blog here, not a legit news source. If this was Jason Reid of the WaPo posting stuff like this I would agree it's way out of line.

I agree with your statement but also think it shows the problem. Moss is a douche bag, no one should be surprised, and he has done this before quite assuredly but reporters don't ever write about it because they can't. If Reid were to write about about a similar incident he'd lose some cred with players making it haredr to do his job. In the end Moss should've just said no interviews and Tanner should have just let it slide. I don't think it's like the Cooley brothers to chill on something like this though. They're not exactly reserved. And they still run the best player site in the league.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I can certainly understand that point of view. I guess I just don't see where it was a huge deal either way. Moss was a prick and someone blogged about it.

The part I find interesting is those that seem to justify Moss being rude. I'm not sure that what Tanner did was so out of line to justify someone treating him like that. Perhaps he could have just brushed it off as no big deal and moved on, but I guess he was thinking it would be something worthwhile to blog about, and based on the amount of discussion it's generated I have think that it was.

Also, we're talking about a blog here, not a legit news source. If this was Jason Reid of the WaPo posting stuff like this I would agree it's way out of line.

I agree...they both should have done that so this subject topic could have remained blogless and threadless.

I think it's funny the written intention of the blog was to make Moss come off as a dick but the opposite ending up happening to the writer. It a good thing Tanner's going to med school and not becoming a novelist.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I was just tossing that out there, otherwise I'm still confused why some, including yourself, are acting so dicky towards him.

I just want the record to state that I held the same view point before and after this guy's posting on the Warpath.

I didn't change my sentiment just because he came around. Also his first response was a little dicky at the end by saying we didn't need to post it on Warpath, just email him with negative responses. I personally don't think I've been dicky while offering my dissenting opinion.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I just want the record to state that I held the same view point before and after this guy's posting on the Warpath.

I didn't change my sentiment just because he came around. Also his first response was a little dicky at the end by saying we didn't need to post it on Warpath, just email him with negative responses. I personally don't think I've been dicky while offering my dissenting opinion.

Neither do I, if anything I have been cut and dry. Sure I said he was holding jocks and riding coattails, but again that is fact. As SC Skins said, Tanner went out of his way to say he is was Chris' brother to Moss. If Tanner is getting upset at what me, some random poster, says about his blog maybe he is in the wrong business. At least I didn't cuss him out and gave my opinions in a clear and respectful way(kinda like what he wanted from Moss).

I am surprised you, Matty, are not more reactive to Tanner's comments. He is basically telling you what you can and cannot post on your forum.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Neither do I, if anything I have been cut and dry. Sure I said he was holding jocks and riding coattails, but again that is fact. As SC Skins said, Tanner went out of his way to say he is was Chris' brother to Moss. If Tanner is getting upset at what me, some random poster, says about his blog maybe he is in the wrong business. At least I didn't cuss him out and gave my opinions in a clear and respectful way(kinda like what he wanted from Moss).

I am surprised you, Matty, are not more reactive to Tanner's comments. He is basically telling you what you can and cannot post on your forum.

However you spin it those are dicky comments, and really not necessary.

I didn't take his comment as him telling us what we can or can't talk about, he's just saying if you have a problem with him feel free to take it up with him personally.