Redskins make first round of roster cuts

[an23dy]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

What is everyones fascination with Rock? Ok, he's a decent KR. Wow. The problem lies with the special teams scheme. It's sucked for the last 4-5 yrs. So what your saying is if we cut Rock, special teams would fall apart cause of his leadership. Like the Skins don't have any other leaders on the team. Moss, Portis, JC, Samuels, (OL) Thomas, Fletcher, Hall, Smoot, Rogers. Just to name a few or am I incorrect?

but....if this is the case then I guess we can't affored to lose Rock. God forbid the team can't break even cause we let him go.

Cartwright is a leader on Special Teams, the leadership guys listed don't play special teams. It's different taking advice and trying to motivate somebody who's not in the same trenches that you are. Like Jason Campbell versus London Fletcher telling Brian Orakpo to get a sack. It resonates more if it's somebody that's next to you, that you spend more time with, and who understands what you're supposed to do and can explain it to you when you mess up.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by an23dy

Cartwright is a leader on Special Teams, the leadership guys listed don't play special teams. It's different taking advice and trying to motivate somebody who's not in the same trenches that you are. Like Jason Campbell versus London Fletcher telling Brian Orakpo to get a sack. It resonates more if it's somebody that's next to you, that you spend more time with, and who understands what you're supposed to do and can explain it to you when you mess up.

I guess you could be right. I guess if the special teams blocking on kick offs and punts are as bad as they are now I guess it could be worse if Rock was not there to motivate them to do their jobs they are getting paid to do. I guess out of 60 minutes of actual playing Rocks leadership skills on special teams is pretty important due to the amount of time they are on the field.

[Beemnseven]

How does anyone really know if Rock is a "leader" ?? Don't you sort of have to be on the team to know something like that?

Not saying Rock should be cut, but as fans we tend to throw this "leader" term around quite a bit, and I don't know how it can be substantiated.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

How does anyone really know if Rock is a "leader" ?? Don't you sort of have to be on the team to know something like that?

Not saying Rock should be cut, but as fans we tend to throw this "leader" term around quite a bit, and I don't know how it can be substantiated.

Well I don't think his coach's and teammates are in the business of throwing around words like "team leader" if they are not legit. Other than that and the obvious what you see on the field and the side lines, what more proof would you really need?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Well I don't think his coach's and teammates are in the business of throwing around words like "team leader" if they are not legit. Other than that and the obvious what you see on the field and the side lines, what more proof would you really need?

If it comes from what the coaches and teammates say, fine. I can't say that I've read that anywhere. I still think the term is a bit hokey. This team has been full of "leaders" for years, with as often as I hear it. Doesn't seem to help us escape from mediocrity though.

I'm not sure what's so obvious about him, really. Again, I'm not saying cut him or anything. He's just been one of those guys who's solid, but nothing really special.