Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB

[D'BOYZ]

Ok I don't get why so many of you compare his possition to Ware's... they play different Schemes one is a 3-4 and the other is the 4-3 . Ware in the 3-4 is close to the line and is used in the outside againts LT TE and RB, Orakpo is i nthe 4-3 outside where he plays against TE,LT and G mostly and he's 5 yards behind the line.

Ware covers 30% of the plays at the most... Orakpo has to cover at least 50% if not more, it's not the same not even close.... Yes many DE are drafted to play LB but that's OLB in the 3-4 not the 4-3...

Ohhh and to the Giant fan that said Ware isn't good in coverage hahaha

[diehard]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Ok I don't get why so many of you compare his possition to Ware's... they play different Schemes one is a 3-4 and the other is the 4-3 . Ware in the 3-4 is close to the line and is used in the outside againts LT TE and RB, Orakpo is i nthe 4-3 outside where he plays against TE,LT and G mostly and he's 5 yards behind the line.

Ware covers 30% of the plays at the most... Orakpo has to cover at least 50% if not more, it's not the same not even close.... Yes many DE are drafted to play LB but that's OLB in the 3-4 not the 4-3...

Ohhh and to the Giant fan that said Ware isn't good in coverage hahaha

I also said Ware isn't good (I meant great) in coverage. Man or zone. Cooley pisses on him everytime, as he does with most LBs and DLs trying to cover him but, no offense. Ware is a beast of a player. There's no doubt about it. Let Orakpo prove what he can do this year. Something I've noticed about Orakpo, he doesn't appear as big as he's listed. Maybe it's just that he doesn't have the long wingspan as Ware or maybe it's the pads. Arrington seemed really big for a LB but, none of these observations have to do with being a gamer.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Ok I don't get why so many of you compare his possition to Ware's... they play different Schemes one is a 3-4 and the other is the 4-3 . Ware in the 3-4 is close to the line and is used in the outside againts LT TE and RB, Orakpo is i nthe 4-3 outside where he plays against TE,LT and G mostly and he's 5 yards behind the line.

Ware covers 30% of the plays at the most... Orakpo has to cover at least 50% if not more, it's not the same not even close.... Yes many DE are drafted to play LB but that's OLB in the 3-4 not the 4-3...

Ohhh and to the Giant fan that said Ware isn't good in coverage hahaha

A couple of things:
1) The Redskins have begun playing more "hybrid" schemes, mixing 4-3 looks with 3-4 and 3-3-5 looks.
2) Rak won't be playing in coverage 50% of the time, as you say, because he will be a hand-down defensive end on 3rd down and blitz sometimes on 1st and 2nd downs

So the difference between Orakpo and Ware, in terms of scheme, is actually not so great.

Now, #3: Ware does often struggle in coverage, like it or not

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Ok I don't get why so many of you compare his possition to Ware's... they play different Schemes one is a 3-4 and the other is the 4-3 . Ware in the 3-4 is close to the line and is used in the outside againts LT TE and RB, Orakpo is i nthe 4-3 outside where he plays against TE,LT and G mostly and he's 5 yards behind the line.

Ware covers 30% of the plays at the most... Orakpo has to cover at least 50% if not more, it's not the same not even close.... Yes many DE are drafted to play LB but that's OLB in the 3-4 not the 4-3...

Ohhh and to the Giant fan that said Ware isn't good in coverage hahaha

Not all 4-3 defenses are created equal. Blache rushes the Sam a lot, hence the comparison. He uses that player as a rush player more than most 4-3 coordinators. That is why Aaron Maybin's skill set would also have worked, but luckily Buffalo jumped on him at #11 and let Orakpo slide since Maybin was a much less proven commodity. It is also why they were thinking of moving Jason Taylor to that position prior to releasing him (they did it a little in the 2nd Philly game with Taylor as well, why they did not do it more during the season I have no idea). We've actually had all of these conversations before, including mentioning players who moved from 4-3 end in college to 4-3 Sam in the pros (Marcus Washington, Mathias Kiwanuka).