Portis for Larry Johnson

djdunick · 01-03-2005, 02:54 PM

Brudleee,

Yes indeed the entire offense was a disappointment. A straight trade and I wouldn't think we got ripped but we also gave up a draft pick. Having to change blocking schemes and the like to fit him makes me believe that Portis really doesn't fit the Gibbs style offense

Redskins_P · 01-03-2005, 02:55 PM

DJ, I believe Gibbs knows that. He's going to make adjustments in the offseason and next year you'll see why alot of us feel like Portis is a great fit.

djdunick · 01-03-2005, 03:01 PM

Redskins P,

The Minnesota pass defense is terrible but I didn't think their run defense is that bad is it?

wolfeskins · 01-03-2005, 06:30 PM

[QUOTE=djdunick]. A cover corner is much harder to come by then a quality runner. Every year Denver produces a runner that gets a ton of yards.

I WOULD SAY ARE CORNERS DID JUST AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN CHAMP BAILLY THIS YEAR (sorry for the caps). also while watching the denver game the other night , i heard the anouncers talking about how denver is strugling this year scoring rushing touchdowns inside the 20 yard line as opposed to last year when they had portis. that tells me , that while denvers system may fit portis a little better than the skins system, portis was the reason for their rushing success, not just their system.

MTK · 01-03-2005, 03:02 PM

Prior to the game the Vikes were 23rd against the run

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 01-03-2005, 04:02 PM

i think george michael is full of shit,he needs to stick to singing.

RedskinRat · 01-03-2005, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINFAN63

i think george michael is full of shit,he needs to stick to singing.

Redskins8588 · 01-04-2005, 12:01 AM

By the way aren't shutdown corners supposed to be able to shut down WR's like Chad Johnson, Jerry Porter, and which ever Colts reciever that he will face this weekend!!!!

I am sorry but Champ is not a "true shutdown" corner. I am not sure if there is one in the NFL anymore. I mean dont get me wrong Champ is good but I dont think that he is that good!! Just my opinion!!

jdlea · 01-04-2005, 12:09 AM

I like Michael Irvin

SmootSmack · 01-04-2005, 01:17 AM

We got 99 problems but Clinton Portis ain't one

MTK · 01-04-2005, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smootsmack

We got 99 problems but Clinton Portis ain't one

You should preference that by saying, If your havin' o-line problems I feel bad for you son...

SmootSmack · 01-04-2005, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You should preference that by saying, If your havin' o-line problems I feel bad for you son...

LOL. good point Matty

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 01-04-2005, 01:39 AM

Trade Portis? What? Didn't we just trade for him?

I'm one of those guys who's "crying" over the $10 million in dead cap space that we desperately need to re-sign guys like Smoot and Pierce. We don't need another $10 million in dead cap room.

Redskins8588 · 01-04-2005, 02:09 AM

Is Tomlinson a buts?? I mean he had 1335 yards on 339 carries and 3.9 yards per carry avg.!!! Very simular stats to Portis!! Oh and did I mention that Tomlinson has ben in the same offensive system for more than 1 year??

Can you name a back who isnt a system back? Think about it when players get drafted the teams dont say "Hey I bet this guy could fit any system!!" NO! I dont think so, they draft players that will work in there system!! So tell me a Back that isnt a system back!! Who??

Redskins8588 · 01-04-2005, 03:42 AM

Yeah, and KC's Deffense or the lack there of had nothing to do with it either???

And as for your stat on Betts averageing 4.1 yards behind the same O-line.
I am not sure if you are aware of this but the is only .3 yards better on how many less carries??? The more you carry the ball the greater the chance is there that the yards per carry will go down. Betts carried the ball 90 times to Portis 343 times.

Christ, Shawn Bryson of the Lions averaged 5.3 yards on 50 carries I say that we should cut Betts and Portis and bring him in!!!!!

01-03-2005, 04:02 PM	#6
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 63 Posts: 289	i think george michael is full of shit,he needs to stick to singing. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

01-04-2005, 12:01 AM	#8
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 47 Posts: 2,519	By the way aren't shutdown corners supposed to be able to shut down WR's like Chad Johnson, Jerry Porter, and which ever Colts reciever that he will face this weekend!!!! I am sorry but Champ is not a "true shutdown" corner. I am not sure if there is one in the NFL anymore. I mean dont get me wrong Champ is good but I dont think that he is that good!! Just my opinion!! __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

01-04-2005, 01:17 AM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	We got 99 problems but Clinton Portis ain't one __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-04-2005, 02:09 AM	#14
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 47 Posts: 2,519	Is Tomlinson a buts?? I mean he had 1335 yards on 339 carries and 3.9 yards per carry avg.!!! Very simular stats to Portis!! Oh and did I mention that Tomlinson has ben in the same offensive system for more than 1 year?? Can you name a back who isnt a system back? Think about it when players get drafted the teams dont say "Hey I bet this guy could fit any system!!" NO! I dont think so, they draft players that will work in there system!! So tell me a Back that isnt a system back!! Who?? __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

01-04-2005, 03:42 AM	#15
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 47 Posts: 2,519	Yeah, and KC's Deffense or the lack there of had nothing to do with it either??? And as for your stat on Betts averageing 4.1 yards behind the same O-line. I am not sure if you are aware of this but the is only .3 yards better on how many less carries??? The more you carry the ball the greater the chance is there that the yards per carry will go down. Betts carried the ball 90 times to Portis 343 times. Christ, Shawn Bryson of the Lions averaged 5.3 yards on 50 carries I say that we should cut Betts and Portis and bring him in!!!!! __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

01-03-2005, 02:54 PM	#1
djdunick Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reisterstown, MD Age: 64 Posts: 141	Brudleee, Yes indeed the entire offense was a disappointment. A straight trade and I wouldn't think we got ripped but we also gave up a draft pick. Having to change blocking schemes and the like to fit him makes me believe that Portis really doesn't fit the Gibbs style offense

01-03-2005, 02:55 PM	#2
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,101	DJ, I believe Gibbs knows that. He's going to make adjustments in the offseason and next year you'll see why alot of us feel like Portis is a great fit.

01-03-2005, 03:01 PM	#3
djdunick Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reisterstown, MD Age: 64 Posts: 141	Redskins P, The Minnesota pass defense is terrible but I didn't think their run defense is that bad is it?

01-03-2005, 06:30 PM	#4
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	[QUOTE=djdunick]. A cover corner is much harder to come by then a quality runner. Every year Denver produces a runner that gets a ton of yards. I WOULD SAY ARE CORNERS DID JUST AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN CHAMP BAILLY THIS YEAR (sorry for the caps). also while watching the denver game the other night , i heard the anouncers talking about how denver is strugling this year scoring rushing touchdowns inside the 20 yard line as opposed to last year when they had portis. that tells me , that while denvers system may fit portis a little better than the skins system, portis was the reason for their rushing success, not just their system.

01-03-2005, 03:02 PM	#5
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Prior to the game the Vikes were 23rd against the run

01-04-2005, 12:09 AM	#9
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	I like Michael Irvin

01-04-2005, 01:39 AM	#13
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Trade Portis? What? Didn't we just trade for him? I'm one of those guys who's "crying" over the $10 million in dead cap space that we desperately need to re-sign guys like Smoot and Pierce. We don't need another $10 million in dead cap room.

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