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Old 09-03-2009, 10:31 AM   #1
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I wouldn't say that, I'm quite worried about our starting secondary. I think we'll miss Springs a lot more than we think.

Without a healthy Carlos Rogers we'll have Justin Tryon playing a pretty important nickel role, which I'm absolutely not comfortable with.
No I agree in terms of circumstances. As far as the roster goes though we don't have huge gaping holes.
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:45 PM   #2
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I wouldn't say that, I'm quite worried about our starting secondary. I think we'll miss Springs a lot more than we think.

Without a healthy Carlos Rogers we'll have Justin Tryon playing a pretty important nickel role, which I'm absolutely not comfortable with.
I've been feeling the same way all camp. Going in I thought the secondary was deep, but I was likely thinking that Barnes would look good as a nickle just cause he's a 3rd round pick.

Now w/CR ailing a little I wonder how well he's going to play. He's a guy that can be pretty erratic, depending on the circumstances. I don't know how well he'll play if not close to 100%. Tryon scares me & Smoot is a nickle at this point in his career.
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I've been feeling the same way all camp. Going in I thought the secondary was deep, but I was likely thinking that Barnes would look good as a nickle just cause he's a 3rd round pick.

Now w/CR ailing a little I wonder how well he's going to play. He's a guy that can be pretty erratic, depending on the circumstances. I don't know how well he'll play if not close to 100%. Tryon scares me & Smoot is a nickle at this point in his career.
Ultimately what worries me isn't depth. Really no other teams in the entire league have significantly more depth than we do. My problem is that Blache just doesn't seem to embrace the concept of utilizing players based on their strengths. He has a scheme and he wants everyone to run it. No changing things up to fit personnel. You can see it during games and in general. How often do we get trampled on for an entire quarter or more before he finally makes an adjustment. It's like he has decided that the scheme comes above all else. And the adjustmenst usually work but he's so damn stubborn. It's clear that he thinks that players just need to do better executing his scheme rather than him trying to make it easier for them to execute. I like Blache but he does have some drawbacks.
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Ultimately what worries me isn't depth. Really no other teams in the entire league have significantly more depth than we do. My problem is that Blache just doesn't seem to embrace the concept of utilizing players based on their strengths. He has a scheme and he wants everyone to run it. No changing things up to fit personnel. You can see it during games and in general. How often do we get trampled on for an entire quarter or more before he finally makes an adjustment. It's like he has decided that the scheme comes above all else. And the adjustmenst usually work but he's so damn stubborn. It's clear that he thinks that players just need to do better executing his scheme rather than him trying to make it easier for them to execute. I like Blache but he does have some drawbacks.
I have my doubts about Blache as well. His blitz packages and that passive, off the line of scrimmage, coverage philosophy gets on my nerves.
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Ultimately what worries me isn't depth. Really no other teams in the entire league have significantly more depth than we do. My problem is that Blache just doesn't seem to embrace the concept of utilizing players based on their strengths. He has a scheme and he wants everyone to run it. No changing things up to fit personnel. You can see it during games and in general. How often do we get trampled on for an entire quarter or more before he finally makes an adjustment. It's like he has decided that the scheme comes above all else. And the adjustmenst usually work but he's so damn stubborn. It's clear that he thinks that players just need to do better executing his scheme rather than him trying to make it easier for them to execute. I like Blache but he does have some drawbacks.
You read my mind. With the FO acquiring AH and Orakpo I think they have shown a desire to increase pressure on the QB which may force Blache to start showing some flexability. At least with the front four or seven. He did send MW on a lot of passing downs as I think he will Orakpo. I wonder though if Blache has intentionally left his corners in certain situations just to see how they handle it. This is something he has done in preseason since he was DC in Chicago. Hopefully once the season starts he will make adjustments before we get trampled for a full quarter. But he does seem stubborn and at times appears to make adjustments only after it has been repeatedly shown that what he's trying to do is not working.
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Gotta keep Rock and Sellers. Now if we could just find a punt returner...
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Gotta keep Rock and Sellers. Now if we could just find a punt returner...
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If we cut Colt, who is going to wear the tights and the visor?
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If we cut Colt, who is going to wear the tights and the visor?
Portis? He wears everything else.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:48 AM   #11
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Re: Vinny tips his hand on the final 53

So if Yoder and Colt are cut, who's Cooley going to hang out with?
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:02 PM   #12
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I'm much more worried about the linebackers than the secondary.
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I'm much more worried about the linebackers than the secondary.
I'm feeling you there too.
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Re: Vinny tips his hand on the final 53

I don't know that a team would trade for Betts at this point. I mean, if he's available right now, there's a good chance you're going to cut him, so why would any team give compensation to the Skins to get him.

I don't see Betts being a guy who would garner more than, "we'll make a run if he becomes a free agent, but we're not giving up picks/a player for him." Unless, of course you were trading for another player who was about to get cut. Sort of like the Taylor Jacobs for Mike Rumph deal a little while ago. (Before people react, I believe Betts and Taylor are not comparable, Betts is a contributor and far better, just saying that the trade scenarios would be similar).
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Re: Vinny tips his hand on the final 53

Fletch has not had the best preseason, but I think it's way too early to assert that he's lost a step. Orakpo does get sealed really easily against the run, and it will probably take 10-12 games to get that ironed out completely. McIntosh is the big question mark.
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