Skins sell ticket straight to scalpers

[souperbad]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No, I'm not an employee, I don't have tickets. Here is the quote from the post:

So, 137 lawsuits, divided by 5 years, is 27 lawsuits on average a year. compared to 20-30,000 premium seats and skyboxes a year. If you want to do a 5 year comparison, 137 lawsuits, against 100,000 (at a minimum) sales.

Again, in my opinion, this is just a mudraker story.

137 lawsuits is a lot when you consider the fact that the article points out that there are almost no other teams in the league that sue their ticket holders. The Patriots said they sue their ticket holders in only rare instances.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by souperbad

137 lawsuits is a lot when you consider the fact that the article points out that there are almost no other teams in the league that sue their ticket holders. The Patriots said they sue their ticket holders in only rare instances.

I cant get the quote at the moment but this is another reason I say the article is muckraking. The article points out about 12 teams, or 1/3 of the league that state they don't take this action, but makes a general point that other franchises declined to answer the question. If they do quick court checks, they could probably find out how many other franchises do conduct lawsuits out of the other 2/3 of the league. Perhaps they had a deadline, or were lazy, OR perhaps finding out that 60% of the teams do in fact invoke court action would have taken some of the steam out of the story.

I am jousting at windmills, would it be warm and fuzzy if they just wrote off the debt yes, could they afford to, on most probably, but is it the end of the world evil business that they don't, I personally don't see it that way.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I cant get the quote at the moment but this is another reason I say the article is muckraking. The article points out about 12 teams, or 1/3 of the league that state they don't take this action, but makes a general point that other franchises declined to answer the question. If they do quick court checks, they could probably find out how many other franchises do conduct lawsuits out of the other 2/3 of the league. Perhaps they had a deadline, or were lazy, OR perhaps finding out that 60% of the teams do in fact invoke court action would have taken some of the steam out of the story.

I am jousting at windmills, would it be warm and fuzzy if they just wrote off the debt yes, could they afford to, on most probably, but is it the end of the world evil business that they don't, I personally don't see it that way.

You don't have to write off shit. What good is that' 100K+ waiting list? No pay, you forfeit your season tickets and someone else scoops them up. Perhaps that waiting list is all for show?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by saden1

You don't have to write off shit. What good is that' 100K+ waiting list? No pay, you forfeit your season tickets and someone else scoops them up. Perhaps that waiting list is all for show?

It certainly appears that this "waiting list" is a farce just like the organization's concerns for its fans.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

It certainly appears that this "waiting list" is a farce just like the organization's concerns for its fans.

I couldnt agree more. IMO, the Skins wait list is one of the biggest myths in sports.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I cant get the quote at the moment but this is another reason I say the article is muckraking. The article points out about 12 teams, or 1/3 of the league that state they don't take this action, but makes a general point that other franchises declined to answer the question. If they do quick court checks, they could probably find out how many other franchises do conduct lawsuits out of the other 2/3 of the league. Perhaps they had a deadline, or were lazy, OR perhaps finding out that 60% of the teams do in fact invoke court action would have taken some of the steam out of the story.

I am jousting at windmills, would it be warm and fuzzy if they just wrote off the debt yes, could they afford to, on most probably, but is it the end of the world evil business that they don't, I personally don't see it that way.

I agree with you that there is some muckraking here. Snyder's relationship with the Post is no secret. However, he has brought this on himself. One, he purposely alienated one of the most prestigious newspapers in the country. Second, he created and fostered an unethical sales environment. Don't get me wrong, he isn't the first or the last and there are hundreds if not thousands of businesses that operate similarly.

But, don't have your mouthpieces such as Larry Michael come out and talk about how much the organization cares about the fans on a daily basis. That is horseshit. If a Redskin fan and a Steeler fan go to a game and the Steeler fan spends $5 more, he cares more about the Steelers fan.

What really bothers me is that this is an incredibly profitable organization. It would be one thing if they were a lot closer to breaking even and they did not have the ability, or had to put significant effort, into selling tickets tied to contracts but this is not the case. There is a huge secondary market between ticket brokers (who get called first) and the fan base. So these lawsuits are just pure greed on the organization's part.

How much is enough for this guy? I understand he is a businessman and he is a great one at that, but once you start ruining lives unnecessarily to fatten your bottom line you become something else.

Think if you have been laid off recently, maybe your wife has been laid off too. You used to do pretty well and go to games but can't afford your season tickets anymore. So you look forward to football season where you can forget about your problems for 3 hours every sunday. Then one day you answer the door and the team that brought you so much enjoyment for years is taking you to court.

I just cannot get over the last line of the article talking about the 72 year old who owes the team $66,364. "I just love the Redskins".

Snyder is taking a loyalty that he had nothing to do with developing and drowning people in it.