Redskins final cutdown thread

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

If thats the case im sure we could make an arguement for half of the avatars on here.

Not really. It's been a long time since a player as horribly average (or worse) as Colt has gotten worshiped to such an extent.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Not really. It's been a long time since a player as horribly average (or worse) as Colt has gotten worshiped to such an extent.

Exactly. I would like to know one other avatar that could be equated to the PJ5. All are either a current player, or a player who through his Regular season/Post season play established himself as an enduring Redskin. Don't quite think Colt has reached that status yet.

[redsk1]

A few choices shocked me: Batiste and M. Williams on the oline. I just remember during a preseason game thinking, man this guy Batiste sure got beat good. Good thing he'll never play. I guess they are thinking potential w/ MW. The problem is we don't have time for potential.

I'm not really too confident in our backup LBs. Blades, Wilson (a converted DE), Thomas. Hope no one gets hurt...yea.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by redsk1

A few choices shocked me: Batiste and M. Williams on the oline. I just remember during a preseason game thinking, man this guy Batiste sure got beat good. Good thing he'll never play. I guess they are thinking potential w/ MW. The problem is we don't have time for potential.

I'm not really too confident in our backup LBs. Blades, Wilson (a converted DE), Thomas. Hope no one gets hurt...yea.

I'm more than concerned with the fragility, as well as the lack of experience at the LB position. Of the starters Fletcher is by far the most experienced but let's face it guys, London slowed slightly towards the end of last season.

Rocky has a history of knee problems so we have to keep em crossed and hope he can maintain health for the duration of the season.

HB Blades is our next most experienced player at the LB position. His versatility alows him to play all three LB positions which could prove invalueable over the course of the season.

The next three, Orakpo, Wilson and Henson have never played a down in the league at the position. We want to believe that Orakpo will succeed because of his credentials, but we can't loose sight of the fact he lacks vital experience, and creative OC's are going to test his skill level repeatedly all season long.

Now let's talk about the DB's. I feel good about the safety position, but the CB position could become problematic depending on both the health of Rogers, and his ability to maintain his place in the lineup. Halfway through the season last year he was sent to the pine in favor of Hall and didn't accept the demotion very well.

Hall, I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope his play does not cause a lot of people to say "I told you so".

Smoot. if we don't get anything else we'll always get the "rap"

The second half of the CB situation is erily simular to the second half of the LB corps. Westbrook, Barnes and Tryon none of which have ever played in an NFL game. It's going to prove interesting, and I'm going to hope and pray our frontline players can stay healthy which is a tall order in this league.

My antennas' are up!

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I'm more than concerned with the fragility, as well as the lack of experience at the LB position. Of the starters Fletcher is by far the most experienced but let's face it guys, London slowed slightly towards the end of last season.

Rocky has a history of knee problems so we have to keep em crossed and hope he can maintain health for the duration of the season.

HB Blades is our next most experienced player at the LB position. His versatility alows him to play all three LB positions which could prove invalueable over the course of the season.

The next three, Orakpo, Wilson and Henson have never played a down in the league at the position. We want to believe that Orakpo will succeed because of his credentials, but we can't loose sight of the fact he lacks vital experience, and creative OC's are going to test his skill level repeatedly all season long.

Now let's talk about the DB's. I feel good about the safety position, but the CB position could become problematic depending on both the health of Rogers, and his ability to maintain his place in the lineup. Halfway through the season last year he was sent to the pine in favor of Hall and didn't accept the demotion very well.

Hall, I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope his play does not cause a lot of people to say "I told you so".

Smoot. if we don't get anything else we'll always get the "rap"

The second half of the CB situation is erily simular to the second half of the LB corps. Westbrook, Barnes and Tryon none of which have ever played in an NFL game. It's going to prove interesting, and I'm going to hope and pray our frontline players can stay healthy which is a tall order in this league.

My antennas' are up!

Good post -- you've cited some legitimate concerns. I feel like we'll be okay with Fletcher this year, but absolutely his replacement needs to be on the horizon pretty soon.

Hopefully our upgrades along the D-line will compensate for any weaknesses with the linebackers and secondary.

[diehardskin2982]

Both of my guys made it Mason and Westbrook... In ur face 2 all those who doubted Westbrook, I told ya so haha, lol! check the record I made that call... I was getting hammered when I said it

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Both of my guys made it Mason and Westbrook... In ur face 2 all those who doubted Westbrook, I told ya so haha, lol! check the record I made that call... I was getting hammered when I said it

You can count me as one of those doubters. I mean for 3 yrs he's shown Jack $#!% and figured he would or atleast should be cut. I was supprised at how he stepped up in this yrs preseason and even ate crow saying he actually looked good. Here's hoping he keeps up the good work cause we may need it.

[SBXVII]

On another note I think this was a good article....It too mentions the cutting ties with Colt that I mentioned in another thread.

Redskins: Cutdown analysis - NFL Nation - ESPN

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

On another note I think this was a good article....It too mentions the cutting ties with Colt that I mentioned in another thread.

Redskins: Cutdown analysis - NFL Nation - ESPN

Sometimes I really wonder if Mosley knows what he's talking about.

Mason a change of pace back?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sometimes I really wonder if Mosley knows what he's talking about.

Mason a change of pace back?

Or, how about this:

The Redskins are old at defensive end. Vinny Cerrato should take a peek around and see if any talented, young pass-rushers were released.

This is the deepest we've been with pass rushers in years. Andre Carter isn't old. Then we've got Orakpo, Chris Wilson, and Jeremy Jarmon who can all line up at the end position and go after the QB.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Or, how about this:



This is the deepest we've been with pass rushers in years. Andre Carter isn't old. Then we've got Orakpo, Chris Wilson, and Jeremy Jarmon who can all line up at the end position and go after the QB.

Yeah he's way off with his assessment.

[Lotus]

Mosley is too obsessed with Vick to notice what's happening with the Redskins.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sometimes I really wonder if Mosley knows what he's talking about.

Mason a change of pace back?

Yeah, he knows very little. Buzbee tore his achillies, not his knee. Tryon was picked fourth last year, he was better than Barnes and Westbrook period. If they can cut Cody after one camp, they could cut Tryon after two years. And old at DE is stupid. This team has gotten young quick.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sometimes I really wonder if Mosley knows what he's talking about.

Mason a change of pace back?

Seriously. Also, "you knew Mason was gonna make this team as the fourth running back." Really? I sure as heck didn't know that. I think the majority of us were really up in the air about the RB situation actually.

The "old DE's" comment is dumb. Granted we probably shouldn't have kept Wynn (and frankly he may not make it very far into the season for us), but I sure wouldn't call us old.

The one thing I really agreed with was calling Cody Glenn a head scratcher. I was miffed when we passed up Javon Ringer (now he's change of pace back) for him. Glenn only played like 9 college games at the LB position. To take him at all, let alone as early as the 5th round was stupid. I hated the move at the time, and I hate it even more now.

At least Marko Mitchell's emergence takes some sting off of the Glenn thing.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Seriously. Also, "you knew Mason was gonna make this team as the fourth running back." Really? I sure as heck didn't know that. I think the majority of us were really up in the air about the RB situation actually.

The "old DE's" comment is dumb. Granted we probably shouldn't have kept Wynn (and frankly he may not make it very far into the season for us), but I sure wouldn't call us old.

The one thing I really agreed with was calling Cody Glenn a head scratcher. I was miffed when we passed up Javon Ringer (now he's change of pace back) for him. Glenn only played like 9 college games at the LB position. To take him at all, let alone as early as the 5th round was stupid. I hated the move at the time, and I hate it even more now.

At least Marko Mitchell's emergence takes some sting off of the Glenn thing.

I too wish we had drafted Ringer instead of Glenn.

However, Ringer ran only a 4.6 40 at the combine. He's not fast enough to be a true change of pace back.