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Old 09-10-2009, 11:59 AM   #1
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Re: Redskins/Giants Opening Day Predictions

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John Clayton is quietly predicting good things for our team and he's very high on Orakpo. Glad to hear that Mort thinks we can beat the Giants. I wouldn't mind for our team to be this year's cause of the annual fire Coughlin phase that NY fans go through
A lot of the national media is trying to use past tendencies to pinhole the Redskins as a 6-8 win team. Specifically, they're drawing similarities between past failures and our actions this year where similarities do not exist.

There are cold, hard, statistics to support the fact that the Redskins might actually just be a 6-8 win team. But even those numbers don't support the notion that the Redskins CANNOT compete in this division with their current team. They simply suggest that the smart money would be on the Giants, and that the other three teams in the division have a 10-20% chance to win it each. Which is fine. Even the Patriots have about a 20% chance of finishing behind someone in the AFC East this year. The things that will actually determine who wins the division are largely out of our players' control anyway.

But the media is taking the above evidence, and presenting it in a way that suggets that there's no way the Redskins can outlast all three teams in the division. That's a limb and it's a completely unsupported limb.

At some point this year, maybe next Monday, maybe seven weeks down the road, it WILL look like the Redskins are the favorites in the NFC East. Same deal for the Eagles and the Giants. Perhaps the Cowboys as well. The reason the percentages come out the way they have is that for the Redskins to win the NFC East, things will need to keep going in their favor for the next three months. That's not likely, but it's certainly possible.

Long story short, there's no evidence that backs a prediction that the Redskins are a non-competitive team in the NFC East.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:54 PM   #2
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A lot of the national media is trying to use past tendencies to pinhole the Redskins as a 6-8 win team. Specifically, they're drawing similarities between past failures and our actions this year where similarities do not exist.

There are cold, hard, statistics to support the fact that the Redskins might actually just be a 6-8 win team. But even those numbers don't support the notion that the Redskins CANNOT compete in this division with their current team. They simply suggest that the smart money would be on the Giants, and that the other three teams in the division have a 10-20% chance to win it each. Which is fine. Even the Patriots have about a 20% chance of finishing behind someone in the AFC East this year. The things that will actually determine who wins the division are largely out of our players' control anyway.

But the media is taking the above evidence, and presenting it in a way that suggets that there's no way the Redskins can outlast all three teams in the division. That's a limb and it's a completely unsupported limb.

At some point this year, maybe next Monday, maybe seven weeks down the road, it WILL look like the Redskins are the favorites in the NFC East. Same deal for the Eagles and the Giants. Perhaps the Cowboys as well. The reason the percentages come out the way they have is that for the Redskins to win the NFC East, things will need to keep going in their favor for the next three months. That's not likely, but it's certainly possible.

Long story short, there's no evidence that backs a prediction that the Redskins are a non-competitive team in the NFC East.
this is exactly why I cringe whenever I hear someone (except a few) talking about the Skins. Its as if they completely disregard any improvement and instead focus on what happened last year or so on, or the Danny factor.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:01 PM   #3
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This comment from Jason Reid is so true:

Despite the addition of defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth and the impressive showing by rookie defensive end/strong-side linebacker Brian Orakpo, the Redskins will not be able to produce as they hope to defensively if Rogers is not right physically. Although DeAngelo Hall has the big contract and moved into the No. 1 corner slot Shawn Springs previously held, the reality is that Hall gives up a lot of big plays and has throughout his career.

Hall also is going to make a lot of big plays, and the Redskins re-signed him, in part, because of his knack for getting interceptions. Rogers has dropped many would-be interceptions throughout his career, but no corner in the NFC East was better in coverage than Rogers for a long stretch last season.

"I'll be ready, and I think we can be good, real good, as a secondary," Rogers said. "I'm just ready to get going."
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:01 PM   #4
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A lot of the national media is trying to use past tendencies to pinhole the Redskins as a 6-8 win team. Specifically, they're drawing similarities between past failures and our actions this year where similarities do not exist.

There are cold, hard, statistics to support the fact that the Redskins might actually just be a 6-8 win team. But even those numbers don't support the notion that the Redskins CANNOT compete in this division with their current team. They simply suggest that the smart money would be on the Giants, and that the other three teams in the division have a 10-20% chance to win it each. Which is fine. Even the Patriots have about a 20% chance of finishing behind someone in the AFC East this year. The things that will actually determine who wins the division are largely out of our players' control anyway.

But the media is taking the above evidence, and presenting it in a way that suggets that there's no way the Redskins can outlast all three teams in the division. That's a limb and it's a completely unsupported limb.

At some point this year, maybe next Monday, maybe seven weeks down the road, it WILL look like the Redskins are the favorites in the NFC East. Same deal for the Eagles and the Giants. Perhaps the Cowboys as well. The reason the percentages come out the way they have is that for the Redskins to win the NFC East, things will need to keep going in their favor for the next three months. That's not likely, but it's certainly possible.

Long story short, there's no evidence that backs a prediction that the Redskins are a non-competitive team in the NFC East.
I saw John Clayton on ESPN and he said the Skins were his sleeper team. He said with their easy schedule its not out of the realm of possibility that the Skins could win 11.
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I saw John Clayton on ESPN and he said the Skins were his sleeper team. He said with their easy schedule its not out of the realm of possibility that the Skins could win 11.
Clayton's one of our biggest advocates here...I hope to meet him some day and thank him
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Clayton's one of our biggest advocates here...I hope to meet him some day and thank him
I've always liked Clayton. If you get the chance let him know that Redskin fans appreciate him.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:48 PM   #7
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I saw John Clayton on ESPN and he said the Skins were his sleeper team. He said with their easy schedule its not out of the realm of possibility that the Skins could win 11.

ya think?If the Skins don't start off at least at 4-1.........you are screwd.
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ya think?If the Skins don't start off at least at 4-1.........you are screwd.
What happens when we start 5-0?
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ya think?If the Skins don't start off at least at 4-1.........you are screwd.
Looking at your schedule, you could say the same thing about the Giants.
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