Another Vinny Special: Deangelo Hall

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Landry can at least hit, but I'm getting fed up with his bullshit committing stupid personal fouls. I'm tired of all this "me" players.

Landry needs to grow up. I hate these "one-player's fault thread". Or in this case, someone who wants to remind everyone how much they hate one player (D. Hall) and bring up how much they harped at this acquisition. Everyone had their terrible moments. Smoot needs to learn how to tackle, the entire defense needs to learn how to cover, and Landry needs to remember that personal fouls = 15 yard penalties.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Landry needs to grow up. I hate these "one-player's fault thread". Or in this case, someone who wants to remind everyone how much they hate one player (D. Hall) and bring up how much they harped at this acquisition. Everyone had their terrible moments. Smoot needs to learn how to tackle, the entire defense needs to learn how to cover, and Landry needs to remember that personal fouls = 15 yard penalties.

Yes, I hate D. Hall. Do you think he's worth what he is getting paid from what you've seen in the pre-season and today? I can guarantee that he will commit more personal fouls as the season progresses and hurt the team.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yes, I hate D. Hall. Do you think he's worth what he is getting paid from what you've seen in the pre-season and today? I can guarantee that he will commit more personal fouls as the season progresses and hurt the team.

In all fairness, he didn't get a 5 game contract. Would it make a difference to you if he was getting paid $1 million a year? Who cares what he's getting paid? Would it make the penalties more acceptable? Did he get a personal foul today or a block in the back on special teams. I really don't understand the level of hatred for a guy who has played less than a full season for us.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

In all fairness, he didn't get a 5 game contract. Would it make a difference to you if he was getting paid $1 million a year? Who cares what he's getting paid? Would it make the penalties more acceptable? Did he get a personal foul today or a block in the back on special teams. I really don't understand the level of hatred for a guy who has played less than a full season for us.

Here's why it matters: if D-Hall was making one million a year, his play on the field would determine how long he remains 1) in the starting lineup, and 2) on the team. Now that he makes $500,000 a week, he doesn't have to improve to keep getting paid.

Essentially, what he contributes to the team is non-essential to him having a job in the starting lineup.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

In all fairness, he didn't get a 5 game contract. Would it make a difference to you if he was getting paid $1 million a year? Who cares what he's getting paid? Would it make the penalties more acceptable? Did he get a personal foul today or a block in the back on special teams. I really don't understand the level of hatred for a guy who has played less than a full season for us.

I go back to his 5 year history. He's an over rated prima donna, should have kept Springs. I've seen this guy get burned and taunt opposing WR's, commit personal fouls over the last 5 years (nothing has changed, maybe he's acting less cocky) and kill his teams. Did you notice when he made the interception that instead of getting out of bounds he wanted to take it to the house and risk a fumble?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I go back to his 5 year history. He's an over rated prima donna, should have kept Springs. I've seen this guy get burned and taunt opposing WR's, commit personal fouls over the last 5 years (nothing has changed, maybe he's acting less cocky) and kill his teams. Did you notice when he made the interception that instead of getting out of bounds he wanted to take it to the house and risk a fumble?

Springs can't stay on the field though. He's always hurt, he's old and makes a lot of money. Sorry but he just wasn't worth the money even though he was our best corner. It was time to move on.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Springs can't stay on the field though. He's always hurt, he's old and makes a lot of money. Sorry but he just wasn't worth the money even though he was our best corner. It was time to move on.

I ultimately agree. While Springs at age 34 is probably better than Hall still, we would just be delaying the inevitable by keeping him around.

So here's the question: if this problem gets worse before it gets better, will Blache have the balls to bench Hall for Kevin Barnes like he would with Rocky Mac, Carlos Rogers, or Chris Horton? Because to this point, all he has done is go out of the way to take the blame for Hall's bad plays while he throws lesser-paid players under the bus after putting them in bad situations.

All I've seen since Hall came on board is 2 wins, 7 losses, and a whole bunch of excuses (as well as a well played ball here or there). But the excuses aren't coming from Hall. They're coming from the coordinator.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I go back to his 5 year history. He's an over rated prima donna, should have kept Springs. I've seen this guy get burned and taunt opposing WR's, commit personal fouls over the last 5 years (nothing has changed, maybe he's acting less cocky) and kill his teams. Did you notice when he made the interception that instead of getting out of bounds he wanted to take it to the house and risk a fumble?

So he gets a turnover deep in the opponents end of the field and he tried to score!?!? WTF was he thinking?!?!? Of course football protocol calls for a defending player to sprint towards the sideline when you get a turnover!

C'mon, really?? Stuff like this just convinces me that some fans are more worried about their personal agenda and biases than actually discussing football.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yes, I hate D. Hall. Do you think he's worth what he is getting paid from what you've seen in the pre-season and today? I can guarantee that he will commit more personal fouls as the season progresses and hurt the team.

Well I'm not defending him either, honestly though for me Landry pissed me off more...he still acting like the undisciplined rookie he was committing all those personal fouls, and as I said, he seemed to be focused more on hitting Jacobs as revenge for last year than actually playing. Honestly all of the DBs were a disappointment given how they were not able to cover these young receivers.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well I'm not defending him either, honestly though for me Landry pissed me off more...he still acting like the undisciplined rookie he was committing all those personal fouls, and as I said, he seemed to be focused more on hitting Jacobs as revenge for last year than actually playing. Honestly all of the DBs were a disappointment given how they were not able to cover these young receivers.

I agree. If he continues down this path, he will hurt this team and I would not hesitate on getting rid of his ass. I tell who is looking solid is Reed Doughty, if Landry and D. Hall only had his brain.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I agree. If he continues down this path, he will hurt this team and I would not hesitate on getting rid of his ass. I tell who is looking solid is Reed Doughty, if Landry and D. Hall only had his brain.

They would be Pro Bowl players!

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I agree. If he continues down this path, he will hurt this team and I would not hesitate on getting rid of his ass. I tell who is looking solid is Reed Doughty, if Landry and D. Hall only had his brain.

Thank you, thank you very much.