play calling???

[dgack]

I'm a big CP fan, and there's no doubt that he's as tough as they come. That said, dude looked SLOW on Sunday. Even on that first big run, I thought "man, he looks like he's really lumbering on this gain". I don't know how much of that is due to him being tight, not really in game shape, age, or what -- but I think he's probably lost a half of a step, maybe more.

The stats are impressive but the one you're forgetting is the number of touches and attempts it took CP to rack up those yards last year -- 342 carries! Only Peterson and Turner had more last season and those guys have significantly fewer miles on them than CP does. In 2007 he led all running backs in attempts. In 2005, he was 4th.

We run the *hell* out of Portis, and that does not come without a price.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dgack

I'm a big CP fan, and there's no doubt that he's as tough as they come. That said, dude looked SLOW on Sunday. Even on that first big run, I thought "man, he looks like he's really lumbering on this gain". I don't know how much of that is due to him being tight, not really in game shape, age, or what -- but I think he's probably lost a half of a step, maybe more.

The stats are impressive but the one you're forgetting is the number of touches and attempts it took CP to rack up those yards last year -- 342 carries! Only Peterson and Turner had more last season and those guys have significantly fewer miles on them than CP does. In 2007 he led all running backs in attempts. In 2005, he was 4th.

We run the *hell* out of Portis, and that does not come without a price.

I have never thought CP was a fast open field runner from the start. He breaks out for big plays but there is always someone catching him from behind on the other team. I can only think of his first carry as a skin where he broke it out into the open field and no one ran him down. I still think CP is a great back but he is just not that fast in the open field.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by dgack

I'm a big CP fan, and there's no doubt that he's as tough as they come. That said, dude looked SLOW on Sunday. Even on that first big run, I thought "man, he looks like he's really lumbering on this gain". I don't know how much of that is due to him being tight, not really in game shape, age, or what -- but I think he's probably lost a half of a step, maybe more.

The stats are impressive but the one you're forgetting is the number of touches and attempts it took CP to rack up those yards last year -- 342 carries! Only Peterson and Turner had more last season and those guys have significantly fewer miles on them than CP does. In 2007 he led all running backs in attempts. In 2005, he was 4th.

We run the *hell* out of Portis, and that does not come without a price.

I agree completely,IMO Portis time has come and gone.His speed his gone and so is his elusiveness,any time he trys to put on a move he slips.Hes great in pass protection but it wouldnt bother me a bit to have him set on the bench a game and see what the other backs can do.
That long run he had to start the game was all off line,that hole was fricking huge and half the backs in the league would have ran it that far and the other half would have probably scored.Portis best run is still the very first run he had with the skins and its been downhill since.Yes hes had good games and good seasons,but I was expecting the explosive back I saw in Denver,and the only time Ive seen that was on his first carry

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree completely,IMO Portis time has come and gone.His speed his gone and so is his elusiveness,any time he trys to put on a move he slips.Hes great in pass protection but it wouldnt bother me a bit to have him set on the bench a game and see what the other backs can do.
That long run he had to start the game was all off line,that hole was fricking huge and half the backs in the league would have ran it that far and the other half would have probably scored.Portis best run is still the very first run he had with the skins and its been downhill since.Yes hes had good games and good seasons,but I was expecting the explosive back I saw in Denver,and the only time Ive seen that was on his first carry

I don't know that his time has come and gone. He's just morphed. Now he is a power back, no longer a speed back.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't know that his time has come and gone. He's just morphed. Now he is a power back, no longer a speed back.

I can agree with that

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by dgack

I'm a big CP fan, and there's no doubt that he's as tough as they come. That said, dude looked SLOW on Sunday. Even on that first big run, I thought "man, he looks like he's really lumbering on this gain". I don't know how much of that is due to him being tight, not really in game shape, age, or what -- but I think he's probably lost a half of a step, maybe more.

The stats are impressive but the one you're forgetting is the number of touches and attempts it took CP to rack up those yards last year -- 342 carries! Only Peterson and Turner had more last season and those guys have significantly fewer miles on them than CP does. In 2007 he led all running backs in attempts. In 2005, he was 4th.

We run the *hell* out of Portis, and that does not come without a price.

Well CP has banged up ribs. Next of all our O line is average at best. Not addressing the O line during the Turner/Marty era killed Stephen Davis, who was a killer back b efore he got totally banged up. I am afraid the same thing is happening to CP. Samuels was young when we had Davis, now he is an old vet.