No Huddle?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've worn the letters off of S H O T G U N on my keyboard the last few days because it's clear that running a higher percentage of our offense from that formation is vital to it's success. As a few people have said in this thread. Some coaches want things to be done their way and some coaches are willing to adapt to their talent. My way coaches are usually looking for work in January.

I think it's obvious that Zorn *gets* the fact that shotgun is the way to go. His passing playcalling is much more gun heavy than it was at any point last year, and on top of that, when the Redskins are in the gun, Heyer goes from a young starting RT to a guy in a comfort zone who completely owns every LDE in the league (except Justin Tuck).

But you do have to go under center to run the ball, and I don't see anything that suggests that Zorn's not going to try to put the ball on the ground at least one time every three plays for the rest of the season. So the passing offense will be stuck with a very thin margin for error, which in turn, limits it's downfield ability when it's only purpose is to covert the first down to allow Portis to stay on the field.

Even a shotgun heavy offense is ineffective if the down and distance is 3rd and 9.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think it's obvious that Zorn *gets* the fact that shotgun is the way to go. His passing playcalling is much more gun heavy than it was at any point last year, and on top of that, when the Redskins are in the gun, Heyer goes from a young starting RT to a guy in a comfort zone who completely owns every LDE in the league (except Justin Tuck).

But you do have to go under center to run the ball, and I don't see anything that suggests that Zorn's not going to try to put the ball on the ground at least one time every three plays for the rest of the season. So the passing offense will be stuck with a very thin margin for error, which in turn, limits it's downfield ability when it's only purpose is to covert the first down to allow Portis to stay on the field.

Even a shotgun heavy offense is ineffective if the down and distance is 3rd and 9.

Yeah, I'm not advocating a return to the K-Gun offense or anything like that but less predictability. The Giants had zero fear of our passing game because we gave them no reason to unless it was an obvious passing down. I know we have to run and being under center is the most effective way to do so but I guess I'm looking for more of an emphasis on the shotgun and being creative and flexible out of it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think it's obvious that Zorn *gets* the fact that shotgun is the way to go. His passing playcalling is much more gun heavy than it was at any point last year, and on top of that, when the Redskins are in the gun, Heyer goes from a young starting RT to a guy in a comfort zone who completely owns every LDE in the league (except Justin Tuck).

But you do have to go under center to run the ball, and I don't see anything that suggests that Zorn's not going to try to put the ball on the ground at least one time every three plays for the rest of the season. So the passing offense will be stuck with a very thin margin for error, which in turn, limits it's downfield ability when it's only purpose is to covert the first down to allow Portis to stay on the field.

Even a shotgun heavy offense is ineffective if the down and distance is 3rd and 9.

Tripp, this is a basic question I admit, but why does the run snap have to be under center? Is it impossible to run from the shotgun? I think Jason benefits from the shotgun cuz he is able to see the field clearer, so why not move the gun up, maybe make a "snubnose" offense where he takes the snap 3 steps back and has a shortend drop. again, i don't understand the limiting factor that forces a run snap to be from under center?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Tripp, this is a basic question I admit, but why does the run snap have to be under center? Is it impossible to run from the shotgun? I think Jason benefits from the shotgun cuz he is able to see the field clearer, so why not move the gun up, maybe make a "snubnose" offense where he takes the snap 3 steps back and has a shortend drop. again, i don't understand the limiting factor that forces a run snap to be from under center?

Anecdotally, I don't think runs from the shotgun happen quickly enough to work over the long haul. The draw play relies on the defensive ends to take themselves out of the play, which gives a huge hole for the back to run through. But under center runs allow the back to be at full speed in the hole, while shotgun runs rely on trickery to get the back to the second level.

We're a pretty darn good draw team, but after about the third time, the ends get the point and just make the tackle.

Now, great offensive lines can block anything. If we completely dominate the defensive line, it doesn't really matter how the running back gets the ball. If your running game is played on the margin, like ours is, I think it makes all the difference.