Do We Really Need Winslow?

[joethiesmanfan]

I agree Taylor levels people and causes fear. All the things Bowens supposedly does.

[Beemnseven]

I'm a member of the 'Draft Sean Taylor Club' -- unless there's an unbelievable trade offer. Sure, if we wind up with some sort of scenario with multiple picks in the first or second round, then there's Ben Troupe of Florida, Ben Watson of Georgia, Ben Utecht of Minnesota, (man, that's a lot of "Bens") and Bo Scaife of Texas who are all top prospects and could be available later on. I've never thought Kellen Winslow Jr. was that big of a need for us, especially now with a Gibbs offense.

Another part of me sees a huge question mark with Byron Chamberlain, injury issues with Robert Royal, and suitable depth behind Walter Rasby. We could use another TE somewhere in the mix, but there are other pressing needs well above tight end that need to be addressed in the draft. We also have Leonard Stephens on the roster -- I liked what I saw of him a couple of years ago in preseason. He'll most likely get a chance to make a decent contribution.

I just feel that Gibbs can bring out much more than many other coaches in a TE even if they're aquired through undrafted free agency.

[Drkstar]

Here is a question I pose to The Sean Taylor backers...

If we are able to pick up NE's 2 first round picks plus a second rounder for the 5th pick of draft which is the trade that is being reportly offered to Detroit, would you guys rather have the following players or Sean Taylor...

Ben Watson
Sean Jones
Chad Lavalais

All of these guys will be available at 21, 32 and 56 pick respectively and I have watched closely due to being a huge SEC and UGA fan and all I believe are bona fide NFL players. Would they make the impact that one Sean Taylor will... thats really not a fair question because I truely believe that filling 3 spots on your football team with good to potientially All Pro type players beats the hell out of getting just one top 3 Free Safety in the game.

Just food for thought...

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Drkstar

Here is a question I pose to The Sean Taylor backers...

If we are able to pick up NE's 2 first round picks plus a second rounder for the 5th pick of draft which is the trade that is being reportly offered to Detroit, would you guys rather have the following players or Sean Taylor...

Ben Watson
Sean Jones
Chad Lavalais

All of these guys will be available at 21, 32 and 56 pick respectively and I have watched closely due to being a huge SEC and UGA fan and all I believe are bona fide NFL players. Would they make the impact that one Sean Taylor will... thats really not a fair question because I truely believe that filling 3 spots on your football team with good to potientially All Pro type players beats the hell out of getting just one top 3 Free Safety in the game.

Just food for thought...

Nah, I think Watson could be a possibility, but that's about it. I understand your affinity for UGA players, but if we drop to the mid-to-late first round, we'd better go with defensive linemen. DE David Pollack could be a possibility as a Bulldog though (if he's declared himself eligible - I don't really know).

I'm sure that a couple from the group of Randy Starks, Antwan Odom, Tommie Harris, or Darnell Dockett will be available in that range you mentioned. Bob Sanders from Iowa will be ranked before Jones, too.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Drkstar

Here is a question I pose to The Sean Taylor backers...

If we are able to pick up NE's 2 first round picks plus a second rounder for the 5th pick of draft which is the trade that is being reportly offered to Detroit, would you guys rather have the following players or Sean Taylor...

There is also a Lions 4th rounder (in this years draft) as part of this deal. Last time I checked, we do not have a 4th round pick. A fifth rounder is not going to cut it for Patriots because otherwise the Lions would have negotiated it to a 5th rounder in the deal instead of a 4th.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

There is also a Lions 4th rounder (in this years draft) as part of this deal. Last time I checked, we do not have a 4th round pick. A fifth rounder is not going to cut it for Patriots because otherwise the Lions would have negotiated it to a 5th rounder in the deal instead of a 4th.

they'd probably take it if we offered our 5th this year and our 4th next year.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

and yeah, there is all of this talk about Taylor being a wrecking ball type tackler but he's no where near Roy Williams type hits. He's more of a coverage safety and would be a ball hawk. He kinda reminds me of a slightly bigger Rod Woodson with his ability to read the pass and once he has his hands on it, taylor has the chance to run it back for a big play a lot of the time.
That being said I'd still rather draft Winslow to make our offense practically unstoppable and see what Williams can do with our safeties. I've also heard about Cleveland's safety Earl Little might be up for trade(SKINSnCANES might know about him since he went to Miami.) We could swap Little for Trotter plus get clevelands 4th or 5th rounder, get New England to make the offered detroit trade with us, trade the #21 pick(I think) from NE, next year's 3rd, and Gardner to detroit for the #6 pick and a late round pick, use detroits pick to select Winslow JR., use the #32 pick to select Jake Grove, then use the 2nd rounder to select Boulware. any other picks would go for special teamers and hopeful diamonds in the rough.