Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)

[12thMan]

I didn't think I would say this after last week's lost to the Giants, but next week is critical for Zorn again. He needs a win - a big win.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Before we run Zorn out of town.

- We put up 362 yards
- 7/15 46% on 3rd down.
- JC was 23 of 36 0 INTs 63.8%
- Not counting the kneel-down, we had 7 drives. 4 were 13+ play drives, 1 was 9 plays, only two 3 & outs

I know we're playing the Rams, but Spags is a D guy and it's not outside the realm of possibility that his D will be getting better week-to-week.

Also, these are not Zorn's fault:
- JC two bad throws on deep balls that would've likely been TDs (Kelly & Thomas)
- Moss fumble inside 10 yd line
- Sellers dropped TD

I remember the Gibbs' 80s well. I remember Mark Moseley being the MVP and a few 15-14 & 12-10 wins in those days. Let's take the W and hope Zorn looks at film and improves the RZ offense over the next couple of weeks.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Before we run Zorn out of town.

- We put up 362 yards
- 7/15 46% on 3rd down.
- JC was 23 of 36 0 INTs 63.8%
- Not counting the kneel-down, we had 7 drives. 4 were 13+ play drives, 1 was 9 plays, only two 3 & outs

I know we're playing the Rams, but Spags is a D guy and it's not outside the realm of possibility that his D will be getting better week-to-week.

Also, these are not Zorn's fault:
- JC two bad throws on deep balls that would've likely been TDs (Kelly & Thomas)
- Moss fumble inside 10 yd line
- Sellers dropped TD

I remember the Gibbs' 80s well. I remember Mark Moseley being the MVP and a few 15-14 & 12-10 wins in those days. Let's take the W and hope Zorn looks at film and improves the RZ offense over the next couple of weeks.

Someone once said stats tell you everything and they tell you nothing. In fact, I posted in a thread last week that I would be looking for certain statistical production. This game was anamoly. You won't win many games in the NFL without scoring in the red zone after so many shots.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Someone once said stats tell you everything and they tell you nothing. In fact, I posted in a thread last week that I would be looking for certain statistical production. This game was anamoly. You won't win many games in the NFL without scoring in the red zone after so many shots.

My point in posting the stats was that the offensive playcalling couldn't have been such shit that we had 5 long drives (4 13 plays or more). We certainly need to fix the RZ production, but IMO it's something that's can be fixed. We just need to see if Zorn is capable of fixing it.

There were also a couple articles out there about JZ being willing to let JC sink-or-swim by opening up and not being afraid to take chances. I think he has to at this point. We need to find out if JZ's O can really be successful and if JC deserves to be re-signed, win or lose.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Before we run Zorn out of town.

- We put up 362 yards
- 7/15 46% on 3rd down.
- JC was 23 of 36 0 INTs 63.8%
- Not counting the kneel-down, we had 7 drives. 4 were 13+ play drives, 1 was 9 plays, only two 3 & outs

I know we're playing the Rams, but Spags is a D guy and it's not outside the realm of possibility that his D will be getting better week-to-week.

Also, these are not Zorn's fault:
- JC two bad throws on deep balls that would've likely been TDs (Kelly & Thomas)
- Moss fumble inside 10 yd line
- Sellers dropped TD

I remember the Gibbs' 80s well. I remember Mark Moseley being the MVP and a few 15-14 & 12-10 wins in those days. Let's take the W and hope Zorn looks at film and improves the RZ offense over the next couple of weeks.

That all sounds great....but you add it up and it only equals 9 points. Something is wrong with this equation IMO. And we have as much talent as pretty much anyone, we just need to learn how to make it work.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Before we run Zorn out of town.

- We put up 362 yards
- 7/15 46% on 3rd down.
- JC was 23 of 36 0 INTs 63.8%
- Not counting the kneel-down, we had 7 drives. 4 were 13+ play drives, 1 was 9 plays, only two 3 & outs

I know we're playing the Rams, but Spags is a D guy and it's not outside the realm of possibility that his D will be getting better week-to-week.

Also, these are not Zorn's fault:
- JC two bad throws on deep balls that would've likely been TDs (Kelly & Thomas)
- Moss fumble inside 10 yd line
- Sellers dropped TD

I remember the Gibbs' 80s well. I remember Mark Moseley being the MVP and a few 15-14 & 12-10 wins in those days. Let's take the W and hope Zorn looks at film and improves the RZ offense over the next couple of weeks.

The missed play to Kelly was horrible and I also think it was maybe the last good play call that Zorn had all day. Run personal, two tight, and take a shot to Kelly. He was clearly open but underthrown. Awful.

Now on Thomas, it is hard to know these things, but I am thinking he was supposed to stem that route inside at the start to give Campbell more room between himself and the sideline. Thomas basically ran himself out of the play by getting too close to the sideline (plus it was called to the short side of the field, but it may also have been a sight adjustment by Campbell because it looked like he made a call to Thomas before the play). Thomas is such a horrible route runner that I have trouble blaming any QB for something that happens on a throw to him. Devin Thomas = Taylor Jacobs.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

The missed play to Kelly was horrible and I also think it was maybe the last good play call that Zorn had all day. Run personal, two tight, and take a shot to Kelly. He was clearly open but underthrown. Awful.

Now on Thomas, it is hard to know these things, but I am thinking he was supposed to stem that route inside at the start to give Campbell more room between himself and the sideline. Thomas basically ran himself out of the play by getting too close to the sideline (plus it was called to the short side of the field, but it may also have been a sight adjustment by Campbell because it looked like he made a call to Thomas before the play). Thomas is such a horrible route runner that I have trouble blaming any QB for something that happens on a throw to him. Devin Thomas = Taylor Jacobs.

yeah i think you're right on that one. they should just put him back on kick off returns and give mitchell is playing time.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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yeah i think you're right on that one. they should just put him back on kick off returns and give mitchell is playing time.

Except he did not even look good doing that in the one chance he got yesterday. He might be fast running in a straight line (in shorts) but in addition to being a horrible route runner he also does not seem to possess any dynamic change of direction skills. We were lucky to come back and get Kelly in that draft.

[Hog1]

JZ's presser on 980am (espn980) now

[53Fan]

Well I saw alot of improvement today. The offense has definitely opened up. Sellers and Thomas had TD's in their hands and dropped them. I would imagine that Zorn will spend a lot of time this week on playcalling in the redzone. If he works that out, our offense is going to look fantastic. I think he'll learn because he's not an idiot. Stop thinking so much and making it complicated Jimbo, it doesn't have to be rocket science. Trying to outsmart the defense in the redzone is not the answer. Call something solid and execute...... And it's not mandatory to wait until 3rd down to throw into the endzone.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Well I saw alot of improvement today. The offense has definitely opened up. Sellers and Thomas had TD's in their hands and dropped them. I would imagine that Zorn will spend a lot of time this week on playcalling in the redzone. If he works that out, our offense is going to look fantastic. I think he'll learn because he's not an idiot. Stop thinking so much and making it complicated Jimbo, it doesn't have to be rocket science. Trying to outsmart the defense in the redzone is not the answer. Call something solid and execute...... And it's not mandatory to wait until 3rd down to throw into the endzone.

God knows his running calls aren't rocket science.

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

Bugel taking over is the best idea I've heard all day. I've always wanted him to be the Redskins coach.

He's also the type that would be able to step down after the season. Blache on the other hand would hold on to that spot for dear life.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Zorn

You did a great job calling plays between the 20s, but your redzone playcalling was absolutely awful. It was predictable. It was ineffective. It failed to take advantage of what was working (i.e., the passing game) and emphasized what wasn't working (i.e., the running game). You failed to adjust the playcalling inside of the redzone after repeated attempts at executing that offense failed.

[wilsowilso]

Dear Jim Zorn.

I'd like to introduce you to my new friend Marko Mitchell.

I'd also like to introduce you to throwing the football to the back of the endzone.

Please meet my friend the slant.

This is my other friend he is named the quarterback rollout.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Dear Jim Zorn.

I'd like to introduce you to my new friend Marko Mitchell.

I'd also like to introduce you to throwing the football to the back of the endzone.

Please meet my friend the slant.

This is my other friend he is named the quarterback rollout.

agree, good post, let's hope JZ reads Warpath. I think Blache must've this week...LOL

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

agree, good post, let's hope JZ reads Warpath. I think Blache must've this week...LOL

Could be.