Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

This latest injury to Thomas is indicitive of just why we were all camoring for the FO to draft young linemen capable of being developed. Hopefully we'll soon come to the realization that while O-linemen may not be as marketable as the skilled players, they are the cornerstones of any football team. It's not likely Thomas will play again for the Redskins if indeed he is lost for the season.

Can you say Alex Mack? He would have been an excellent addition.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Can you say Alex Mack? He would have been an excellent addition.

You know I was just thinking that. Mack plays guard and center too. Do you remember all the flack we got when we said we should have drafted him. Ah but he's not a first rounder. We don't need another center. BS!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You know I was just thinking that. Mack plays guard and center too. Do you remember all the flack we got when we said we should have drafted him. Ah but he's not a first rounder. We don't need another center. BS!

No disrespect to Orakpo but we should have traded down, picked up Mack and and DE with the other pick. I guess it made too much sense.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

No disrespect to Orakpo but we should have traded down, picked up Mack and and DE with the other pick. I guess it made too much sense.

Um that's a pretty good idea. Personally I think the ultimate '09 Redskins draft would have been trade back, take Michael Oher w/ our first pick and then find someway to get Rey-Rey when he somehow fell into the 2nd round. Both are starters and making WAY bigger contributions to their teams than Rak has made. Rey-Rey is freaking awesome at SLB. 8 tackles first game. Just 4 today but he's added a sack and somewhere in there he caused to freakin fumbles!

...I'm still appalled at how so many Skins fans poo-pooed Rey as a guy who couldn't play at the pro level and would make a terrible SLB. Nooooo, let's take a pure DE instead and let him learn to be a LB

Ah, I need to let it all go. I am real glad at the optimism about Rinehart hopefully stepping in at RG and making an impact. Let's see the mean streak he had in college come out this weekend

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Um that's a pretty good idea. Personally I think the ultimate '09 Redskins draft would have been trade back, take Michael Oher w/ our first pick and then find someway to get Rey-Rey when he somehow fell into the 2nd round. Both are starters and making WAY bigger contributions to their teams than Rak has made. Rey-Rey is freaking awesome at SLB. 8 tackles first game. Just 4 today but he's added a sack and somewhere in there he caused to freakin fumbles!

...I'm still appalled at how so many Skins fans poo-pooed Rey as a guy who couldn't play at the pro level and would make a terrible SLB. Nooooo, let's take a pure DE instead and let him learn to be a LB

Ah, I need to let it all go. I am real glad at the optimism about Rinehart hopefully stepping in at RG and making an impact. Let's see the mean streak he had in college come out this weekend

I think you might be embellishing a little. Very few people had a problem with Rey Rey, the only negative being that he might have been seen by some as a constalation prize that we would have only taken had Sanchez, Orakpo, Andre Smith, and Eugene Monroe had all been taken. As far as SLB most people were unsure but not totally against it.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I think you might be embellishing a little. Very few people had a problem with Rey Rey, the only negative being that he might have been seen by some as a constalation prize that we would have only taken had Sanchez, Orakpo, Andre Smith, and Eugene Monroe had all been taken. As far as SLB most people were unsure but not totally against it.

Nonsense. I'll go back and read the threads when I've got time but it blew my mind how many posts went on and on about his inability to play anything but MLB and how it was the talent around him that made him look good. I mean i don't even watch every USC game and I could tell that kid has got football pumping through his veins. I think Rey alone makes Cincy one of the big winners in this draft...not so sure how Smith will turnout. I think Oher may be the safer bet between the two, if just as a career RT.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Nonsense. I'll go back and read the threads when I've got time but it blew my mind how many posts went on and on about his inability to play anything but MLB and how it was the talent around him that made him look good. I mean i don't even watch every USC game and I could tell that kid has got football pumping through his veins. I think Rey alone makes Cincy one of the big winners in this draft...not so sure how Smith will turnout. I think Oher may be the safer bet between the two, if just as a career RT.

I won't back down from what I said before the draft- I still believe Rey was the weakest pick out of the three Trojan linebackers from what I watched at SC the last few seasons. I still think Cush is going to wreck havoc in Houston and it will take Clay a few seasons to really show his worth, as he's a late bloomer. I'm happy Rey's making plays so far- but guess what... Cincy's coaching staff is letting him freelance a bit more because he's surrounded by two better, more disciplined linebackers in Dhani Jones and Keith Rivers (and Rivers is a far superior player than Rey at this level... yes, he has a season on him- but Keith is the real deal). Coincidence?

Sorta like at SC- the Bengals' coaches are playing to Rey's strength (aggressive headhunting/playmaking) and you can only achieve that in a system that allows for such a player. Most NFL teams bypassed him because most d-coordinators don't want the headache of such a high risk-high reward player that may not fit into a structured scheme that relies on every player to remain in their zones.

I bet if you were on this board before the 2000 draft, you would have been pretty amped on LaVar Arrington as well- the dude had pretty much the same MO as Rey coming out of school. Highlight hits, incredible speed and power, etc. His shortcomings were the same exact ones Rey had- inconsistency, tendency to overpursue, looking for the big hit instead of the solid tackle, slow to fill cut back lanes, etc. Do you honestly think Rey would be making a difference in DC? What makes him that much better than LaVar coming out of college? I was the biggest LA fan for most of his career , btw...

Remember, 31 teams may not have drafted Rey not because he isn't a playmaker and won't make SportsCenter highlights once in a while... but maybe because their systems don't allow (or don't have the surrounding personnel) the luxury of a freelancing headhunter that makes crowds go "Ahhhh."

It's been two games and I'm not yet ready to write off Orakpo for an Oher swap w/ a Rey miracle throw-in somehow (even though Oher is definitely the real deal for B-Mo). Did I just really defend a Longhorn over my own Trojan-in-arms? Somebody slap me...

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

No disrespect to Orakpo but we should have traded down, picked up Mack and and DE with the other pick. I guess it made too much sense.

Please stop the draft has been over bro. Why even do the we shoulda coulda game. We got Orakpo and thats the fact.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

No disrespect to Orakpo but we should have traded down, picked up Mack and and DE with the other pick. I guess it made too much sense.

Making a trade requires more than one team of course

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Making a trade requires more than one team of course

Brian Billick? Really? Surely you jest.

And good morning, SmootSmack!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Brian Billick? Really? Surely you jest.

And good morning, SmootSmack!

Good morning!

Yes I jest...sort of. I just threw a name up there that isn't Shanahan or Cowher, because those can't be the only choices you know.

I'll just keep throwing names up there of guys I would not be upset to get. I really like Mike Sherman for some reason

Were you the other guy who wanted Fassell? Or was I alone in that boat?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Good morning!

Yes I jest...sort of. I just threw a name up there that isn't Shanahan or Cowher, because those can't be the only choices you know.

I'll just keep throwing names up there of guys I would not be upset to get. I really like Mike Sherman for some reason

Were you the other guy who wanted Fassell? Or was I alone in that boat?

Yeah, I think we were the only two members on the Jim Fassel Fan Club.

I really hope somebody else picks up Bill Cowher.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Making a trade requires more than one team of course

Yeah, that's why Cleveland and Philly traded and got Mack.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yeah, that's why Cleveland and Philly traded and got Mack.

I think you're missing my point. That's ok