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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If JC had an OL like that and a receiver like Smith that always catches the key plays, then JC would also look good. We are getting there slowly, our problem is the RED ZONE.

Looks like that was their problem in that drive as well.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Looks like that was their problem in that drive as well.

Yep. But at least they didn't wait until it was 3rd and goal to attempt a pass in in the end zone.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Yep. But at least they didn't wait until it was 3rd and goal to attempt a pass in in the end zone.

Yes but they still were held to a field goal. I'm sure a Giants fan is pissed at that.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yes but they still were held to a field goal. I'm sure a Giants fan is pissed at that.

I'm sure more than one Giants fan is pissed, and I'm sure all of them will be really pissed if it happens 3 or 4 more times. Especially if it takes them 10-15 plays to get to the red zone in the first place.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I'm sure more than one Giants fan is pissed, and I'm sure all of them will be really pissed if it happens 3 or 4 more times. Especially if it takes them 10-15 plays to get to the red zone in the first place.

Well it happened to them 3 times against us last week, and from what it looks like they are facing a much better team in the Cowboys (I just threw up in my mouth a little) and it looks like it is happening again. My point is that this happens to other teams, and not just ours and we're seeing that right now.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well it happened to them 3 times against us last week, and from what it looks like they are facing a much better team in the Cowboys (I just threw up in my mouth a little) and it looks like it is happening again. My point is that this happens to other teams, and not just ours and we're seeing that right now.

I'm going to go on the record and say that our Defense is much better than the Rams And if we were up 17-0 against the Rams in the second quarter, but had to settle for a few field foals, I don't think most Skins fans would have been that upset.

GREAT shot of Jerry Jones picking his nose! CLASSIC!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I'm going to go on the record and say that our Defense is much better than the Rams And if we were up 17-0 against the Rams in the second quarter, but had to settle for a few field foals, I don't think most Skins fans would have been that upset.

GREAT shot of Jerry Jones picking his nose! CLASSIC!

Damn I missed that!!

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yes but they still were held to a field goal. I'm sure a Giants fan is pissed at that.

BTW, is the Skins move the ball 70-80 yards in 5 plays next week, but have to settle for a field goal, I won't be that pissed. I'd be jacked that they drove down the field so easily.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

BTW, is the Skins move the ball 70-80 yards in 5 plays next week, but have to settle for a field goal, I won't be that pissed. I'd be jacked that they drove down the field so easily.

So you think it is better to have two or three deep passes and still settle for a FG? No offense, but that is just insane. In the end both situations end up with a FG and both situation prove that there's a problem with RZ offense.

You know it is ok to see other teams with problems similar to the Redskins.

TD Giants!! (Their D is in my FF team)

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you think it is better to have two or three deep passes and still settle for a FG? No offense, but that is just insane. In the end both situations end up with a FG and both situation prove that there's a problem with RZ offense.

You know it is ok to see other teams with problems similar to the Redskins.

TD Giants!! (Their D is in my FF team)

Ummm, yes I do. The quicker a team can move the ball down the field, the more possessions they are likely to have in the game and consequently, the more opportunities to score. And unless the Giants go without a TD the entire game, they don't have the same problems as the Skins. If they do, then yes, they also suck in the red zone. Every team kicks field goals, but not every team kicks nothing BUT field goals against a team that won 2 games last year and was shut out the week before.

It's OK to be a dumbass.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Ummm, yes I do. The quicker a team can move the ball down the field, the more possessions they are likely to have in the game and consequently, the more opportunities to score. And unless the Giants go without a TD the entire game, they don't have the same problems as the Skins. If they do, then yes, they also suck in the red zone. Every team kicks field goals, but not every team kicks nothing BUT field goals against a team that won 2 games last year and was shut out the week before.

It's OK to be a dumbass.

Dude, no need for namecalling alright?

Besides the Giants had one long TD but had three RZ trips end up with 2 FGs. I know ur pissed about today's game but don't act that we're the ONLY team that has these problems or that scored just 3 FGs (like one NE Patriots)

See the Giants are once again in the RZ and could be coming away with a FG after getting good field position (and they did).

The difference between us and the Giants it seems is that their defense scores and ours hasn't. So that's two RZ trips and two field goals. So much for deep passes huh?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Ummm, yes I do. The quicker a team can move the ball down the field, the more possessions they are likely to have in the game and consequently, the more opportunities to score. And unless the Giants go without a TD the entire game, they don't have the same problems as the Skins. If they do, then yes, they also suck in the red zone. Every team kicks field goals, but not every team kicks nothing BUT field goals against a team that won 2 games last year and was shut out the week before.

Right, but the point of the game isn't to score a ton of points, it's to win. The drive frequency greatly affects PPG totals, but I think we've already established that PPG is a stupid way to think about the quality of an offensive or defensive unit.

We'd all like to see a higher TD conversion rate in the red zone, especially if you get inside the 10, but ultimately, it just seems to come down to wasted plays, mistakes, and luck. It's not a talent issue, it's part problem with Zorn's approach, and part just having a running game that fails to move the ball once it gets close to the end zone.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yes but they still were held to a field goal. I'm sure a Giants fan is pissed at that.

Any teams fans will be pissed with that,yet we still manage to score 2 TD's offensivly and 2 on defense.Admit .....you're just an Eli hater!