Offensive line depth (R. Thomas' injury)

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I think you might be embellishing a little. Very few people had a problem with Rey Rey, the only negative being that he might have been seen by some as a constalation prize that we would have only taken had Sanchez, Orakpo, Andre Smith, and Eugene Monroe had all been taken. As far as SLB most people were unsure but not totally against it.

Nonsense. I'll go back and read the threads when I've got time but it blew my mind how many posts went on and on about his inability to play anything but MLB and how it was the talent around him that made him look good. I mean i don't even watch every USC game and I could tell that kid has got football pumping through his veins. I think Rey alone makes Cincy one of the big winners in this draft...not so sure how Smith will turnout. I think Oher may be the safer bet between the two, if just as a career RT.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Nonsense. I'll go back and read the threads when I've got time but it blew my mind how many posts went on and on about his inability to play anything but MLB and how it was the talent around him that made him look good. I mean i don't even watch every USC game and I could tell that kid has got football pumping through his veins. I think Rey alone makes Cincy one of the big winners in this draft...not so sure how Smith will turnout. I think Oher may be the safer bet between the two, if just as a career RT.

I won't back down from what I said before the draft- I still believe Rey was the weakest pick out of the three Trojan linebackers from what I watched at SC the last few seasons. I still think Cush is going to wreck havoc in Houston and it will take Clay a few seasons to really show his worth, as he's a late bloomer. I'm happy Rey's making plays so far- but guess what... Cincy's coaching staff is letting him freelance a bit more because he's surrounded by two better, more disciplined linebackers in Dhani Jones and Keith Rivers (and Rivers is a far superior player than Rey at this level... yes, he has a season on him- but Keith is the real deal). Coincidence?

Sorta like at SC- the Bengals' coaches are playing to Rey's strength (aggressive headhunting/playmaking) and you can only achieve that in a system that allows for such a player. Most NFL teams bypassed him because most d-coordinators don't want the headache of such a high risk-high reward player that may not fit into a structured scheme that relies on every player to remain in their zones.

I bet if you were on this board before the 2000 draft, you would have been pretty amped on LaVar Arrington as well- the dude had pretty much the same MO as Rey coming out of school. Highlight hits, incredible speed and power, etc. His shortcomings were the same exact ones Rey had- inconsistency, tendency to overpursue, looking for the big hit instead of the solid tackle, slow to fill cut back lanes, etc. Do you honestly think Rey would be making a difference in DC? What makes him that much better than LaVar coming out of college? I was the biggest LA fan for most of his career , btw...

Remember, 31 teams may not have drafted Rey not because he isn't a playmaker and won't make SportsCenter highlights once in a while... but maybe because their systems don't allow (or don't have the surrounding personnel) the luxury of a freelancing headhunter that makes crowds go "Ahhhh."

It's been two games and I'm not yet ready to write off Orakpo for an Oher swap w/ a Rey miracle throw-in somehow (even though Oher is definitely the real deal for B-Mo). Did I just really defend a Longhorn over my own Trojan-in-arms? Somebody slap me...

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

I won't back down from what I said before the draft- I still believe Rey was the weakest pick out of the three Trojan linebackers from what I watched at SC the last few seasons. I still think Cush is going to wreck havoc in Houston and it will take Clay a few seasons to really show his worth, as he's a late bloomer. I'm happy Rey's making plays so far- but guess what... Cincy's coaching staff is letting him freelance a bit more because he's surrounded by two better, more disciplined linebackers in Dhani Jones and Keith Rivers (and Rivers is a far superior player than Rey at this level... yes, he has a season on him- but Keith is the real deal). Coincidence?

Sorta like at SC- the Bengals' coaches are playing to Rey's strength (aggressive headhunting/playmaking) and you can only achieve that in a system that allows for such a player. Most NFL teams bypassed him because most d-coordinators don't want the headache of such a high risk-high reward player that may not fit into a structured scheme that relies on every player to remain in their zones.

I bet if you were on this board before the 2000 draft, you would have been pretty amped on LaVar Arrington as well- the dude had pretty much the same MO as Rey coming out of school. Highlight hits, incredible speed and power, etc. His shortcomings were the same exact ones Rey had- inconsistency, tendency to overpursue, looking for the big hit instead of the solid tackle, slow to fill cut back lanes, etc. Do you honestly think Rey would be making a difference in DC? What makes him that much better than LaVar coming out of college? I was the biggest LA fan for most of his career , btw...

Remember, 31 teams may not have drafted Rey not because he isn't a playmaker and won't make SportsCenter highlights once in a while... but maybe because their systems don't allow (or don't have the surrounding personnel) the luxury of a freelancing headhunter that makes crowds go "Ahhhh."

It's been two games and I'm not yet ready to write off Orakpo for an Oher swap w/ a Rey miracle throw-in somehow (even though Oher is definitely the real deal for B-Mo). Did I just really defend a Longhorn over my own Trojan-in-arms? Somebody slap me...

What does this have to do with O-Line Depth?

[Bucket]

Jesus.. STFU about new coaches and QB's and try to act like loyal Redskin fans for once? Let's just see what ahppens this season, or atleast wait till we've played more then 2 games before we start calling for heads.

What the hell is wrong with some of you? lol

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Jesus.. STFU about new coaches and QB's and try to act like loyal Redskin fans for once? Let's just see what ahppens this season, or atleast wait till we've played more then 2 games before we start calling for heads.

What the hell is wrong with some of you? lol

There's nothing wrong with us. Three field goals is what's wrong. We're loyal enough to get on a message board because we're hardcore Redskin fans. How many other fans know the entire lineup and depth of their team?

The time for stacking O-line men was years ago. If Zorn does get the boot then I say Vinny should too. I watched the Giants and Girls play last night. Watching the girls run on NJ just made my angry. Why can't we do that?

If we have to blow it up then blow it up. Nothing I've seen so far suggests that we'll not. Nothing short of the playoffs will stop this IMO.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

The time for stacking O-line men was years ago. If Zorn does get the boot then I say Vinny should too. I watched the Giants and Girls play last night. Watching the girls run on NJ just made my angry. Why can't we do that?

No disrespect to Portis, but what this team has been lacking is a player like Michael Bush (Raiders) or Jacobs who can play smashmouth football and shove the ball down peoples throat.

[Trample the Elderly]

Who's that big corn fed boy they've got in Denver? He's a beast. I'd like to see them draft some o-linemen and get a FB/RB beast runner in the 4th or
5th like Jacobs. How we can have a serious run game with out a change of back RB and a good O is beyond me? If you can't run for three yards on the goal line then you don't have a good run team, at least when you need it the most.

[ChickenMonkey]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

There's nothing wrong with us. Three field goals is what's wrong. We're loyal enough to get on a message board because we're hardcore Redskin fans. How many other fans know the entire lineup and depth of their team?

The time for stacking O-line men was years ago. If Zorn does get the boot then I say Vinny should too. I watched the Giants and Girls play last night. Watching the girls run on NJ just made my angry. Why can't we do that?

If we have to blow it up then blow it up. Nothing I've seen so far suggests that we'll not. Nothing short of the playoffs will stop this IMO.

I concur...Ive been hoping and praying the skins get it together since they last went to the superbowl in 1991, Im sick of my wife giving me crap for putting my heart out there for them every year to get disappointed...Blow the Offense and Coaching staff up and start over,,,,Its time

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Jesus.. STFU about new coaches and QB's and try to act like loyal Redskin fans for once? Let's just see what ahppens this season, or atleast wait till we've played more then 2 games before we start calling for heads.

What the hell is wrong with some of you? lol

What's wrong with us? Where should I begin? I can remember when Zorn was named HC and we were told that he would be installing a high powered scoring offense and a fast moving offense. To tell you the truth I'm still waiting. Nothing has changed since Gibbs2 and it's probably due to the Skins having the same personell, and same coach's.

Some of us may be losing our minds due to yelling at the tv screen or radio for the last 2 yrs. To be truthfull we were told the same thing under Al Saunders. Did we see the "Fast moving, high scoring offense"? Yes we did, but it was New England that had it not the Skins.

Last yr our run game was the staple of the team and Zorn tried to incorporate more passing plays. Little changed. This yr after adding some 130 plays over the summer we keep seeing the same plays all day long with no production. I actually believe the passing game is now the staple of the team cause we have no run game. Can we recall Dorsey or Alridge? I ask cause did you see how the Giants spread themselves out trying to keep Dallas from running to the outside which in effect opened up the middle? Yet when they played us they lined up 8 in the box and all between the tackles. Why? cause we have no outside threat.

What is Hixon teaching the WR's? I watched the Giants and Dallas WR's make it look easy. Why? How? I think it's because they are using curl routes, come backs, and stop and goes. Our WR's simply run a route and hope they can get seperation. Other teams WR's seem to know where the 1st down marker is and actually go beyond it to catch the ball...ours stop 5 yrds short and don't get YAC.