can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

[Monkeydad]

UPDATED stats/assessment:

Cutler:
WK 1 - 17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating, 16 rush yds
WK 2 - 27/38 (71.1%), 236 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 104.7 rating, -2 rush yds
TOTAL: 44/77 (59.5%), 513 yds, 3 TD, 4 INT, 71.5 rating, 14 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 1 - 18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating, 6 rush yds
WK 2 - 14/22 (63.6%), 163 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 101.1 rating, -2 rush yds
TOTAL: 32/53 (60.4%), 435 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT, 91.3 rating, 4 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 1 - 19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating, 16 rush yds
WK 2 - 23/35 (65.7%), 242 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 85.7 rating, 28 rush yds
TOTAL: 42/61 (68.9%), 453 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 89.0 rating, 44 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campell (+8.5%), Sanchez, Cutler
Yds = Cutler (+60 yds), Campbell, Sanchez
TDs = Cutler (3), Sanchez (2), Campbell (1)
INTs = Campbell/Sanchez (1 ea), Cutler (4)
QB rating = Sanchez (+2.3), Campbell, Cutler (horrible)
Rush yds = Campbell (44), Cutler (14), Sanchez (4)


Campbell is holding his own, if not outperforming the others in nearly every category. His teammates have dropped many TD passes, but he is not throwing INTs either. Cutler is either in first or last in the categories, so he helps and hurts his team equally. Sanchez is doing well for a rookie, but Campbell's numbers still look better. Also, he has a smart mobility that neither of the other two have. He can take off and run for a 1st down if his receivers are covered, as well as any QB in the league.

I was supportive of keeping JC and completely against getting Cutler. Looks like I am justified.

It's not Campbell's fault that Zorn is blowing red-zone playcalls and critical TD passes are being dropped. He's showing more leadership this season and will have a great year when things start clicking on offense.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Buster

UPDATED stats/assessment:

Cutler:
WK 1 - 17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating, 16 rush yds
WK 2 - 27/38 (71.1%), 236 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 104.7 rating, -2 rush yds
TOTAL: 44/77 (59.5%), 513 yds, 3 TD, 4 INT, 71.5 rating, 14 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 1 - 18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating, 6 rush yds
WK 2 - 14/22 (63.6%), 163 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 101.1 rating, -2 rush yds
TOTAL: 32/53 (60.4%), 435 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT, 91.3 rating, 4 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 1 - 19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating, 16 rush yds
WK 2 - 23/35 (65.7%), 242 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 85.7 rating, 28 rush yds
TOTAL: 42/61 (68.9%), 453 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 89.0 rating, 44 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campell (+8.5%), Sanchez, Cutler
Yds = Cutler (+60 yds), Campbell, Sanchez
TDs = Cutler (3), Sanchez (2), Campbell (1)
INTs = Campbell/Sanchez (1 ea), Cutler (4)
QB rating = Sanchez (+2.3), Campbell, Cutler (horrible)
Rush yds = Campbell (44), Cutler (14), Sanchez (4)


Campbell is holding his own, if not outperforming the others in nearly every category. His teammates have dropped many TD passes, but he is not throwing INTs either. Cutler is either in first or last in the categories, so he helps and hurts his team equally. Sanchez is doing well for a rookie, but Campbell's numbers still look better. Also, he has a smart mobility that neither of the other two have. He can take off and run for a 1st down if his receivers are covered, as well as any QB in the league.

I was supportive of keeping JC and completely against getting Cutler. Looks like I am justified.

It's not Campbell's fault that Zorn is blowing red-zone playcalls and critical TD passes are being dropped. He's showing more leadership this season and will have a great year when things start clicking on offense.

No way. I'm not taking anything away from Soup but Cutler was in control of the Pittsburgh game the other day. He won it too. I didn't see Sanchez but I hear they beat New England. Soup isn't up there with these guys because he hasn't beaten the Steelers or the Patriots. I'm not so sure it's him and not the play calling now. I'll have to see more.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

No way. I'm not taking anything away from Soup but Cutler was in control of the Pittsburgh game the other day. He won it too. I didn't see Sanchez but I hear they beat New England. Soup isn't up there with these guys because he hasn't beaten the Steelers or the Patriots. I'm not so sure it's him and not the play calling now. I'll have to see more.

He's also in the NFC and won't ever be graded by how he does against the Steelers and the Patriots. He needs to do well against the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's also in the NFC and won't ever be graded by how he does against the Steelers and the Patriots. He needs to do well against the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles.

He was graded against the Steelers last year and flunked.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

He was graded against the Steelers last year and flunked.

We flunked as a team, the O-line let the Steelers beat the crap out of JC, he was lucky to make it through that game alive!!!

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by roth74va

We flunked as a team, the O-line let the Steelers beat the crap out of JC, he was lucky to make it through that game alive!!!

Yeah no kidding. Look up the word "jailbreak" on google and you will get a direct feed to the video of that game.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

No way. I'm not taking anything away from Soup but Cutler was in control of the Pittsburgh game the other day. He won it too. I didn't see Sanchez but I hear they beat New England. Soup isn't up there with these guys because he hasn't beaten the Steelers or the Patriots. I'm not so sure it's him and not the play calling now. I'll have to see more.

Sanchez is really impressing me. What I like is how our future head coach Brian Schottenheimer is showing faith in him by putting the game in his hands in the 2nd half against the Pats yesterday. I find it a bit odd that Zorn at seemingly critical junctures, first pass play of the season/3rd down paly in the red zone, Zorn isn't putting it in Campbell's hands to make that throw. With Zorn's future so closely tied to Campbell's success it seems odd that he would do that.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sanchez is really impressing me. What I like is how our future head coach Brian Schottenheimer is showing faith in him by putting the game in his hands in the 2nd half against the Pats yesterday. I find it a bit odd that Zorn at seemingly critical junctures, first pass play of the season/3rd down paly in the red zone, Zorn isn't putting it in Campbell's hands to make that throw. With Zorn's future so closely tied to Campbell's success it seems odd that he would do that.

Not that I'm suggesting that these are anything but loaded terms, but couldn't Brian Schottenheimer's passing offense charitably be described as boring and unimaginative?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not that I'm suggesting that these are anything but loaded terms, but couldn't Brian Schottenheimer's passing offense charitably be described as boring and unimaginative?

One man's "boring and unimaginative" is another man's "effective and efficient"

Seriously though, I think B Schott often unfairly gets labeled boring because of his last name.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

One man's "boring and unimaginative" is another man's "effective and efficient"

Seriously though, I think B Schott often unfairly gets labeled boring because of his last name.

Isn't he at least partially responsible for moving from a franchise QB with durability issues in Pennington to Kellen Clemens to Brett Favre and finally to Sanchez? I'm missing what makes his slow and steady passing game so appealing while Zorn's is so irritating (not necessarily the opinion of the author of these comments).

I think a Zorn -> Schotty Jr. transition would go well, but in the end, the offense would be more or less under a similar philosophy.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Isn't he at least partially responsible for moving from a franchise QB with durability issues in Pennington to Kellen Clemens to Brett Favre and finally to Sanchez? I'm missing what makes his slow and steady passing game so appealing while Zorn's is so irritating (not necessarily the opinion of the author of these comments).

I think a Zorn -> Schotty Jr. transition would go well, but in the end, the offense would be more or less under a similar philosophy.

I don't follow your first line there.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not that I'm suggesting that these are anything but loaded terms, but couldn't Brian Schottenheimer's passing offense charitably be described as boring and unimaginative?

Dude, I would rather have Norv back and his playbook than the crap we are seeing. Actually JC would love Norv's playbook. Shit, Frerotte could have been a perennial pro bowler with the Wrs JC has, and Norv was a decent play caller. At least he had an offense that could score. Too bad Norv is an ineffective HC. Boring and unimaginative that gets the job done is way better than marching up and down the 20 yard lines only to come up empty or lousy FGs. Just like it is with women, the object is to score big!!!!!!

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Buster

UPDATED stats/assessment:

Cutler:
WK 1 - 17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating, 16 rush yds
WK 2 - 27/38 (71.1%), 236 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 104.7 rating, -2 rush yds
TOTAL: 44/77 (59.5%), 513 yds, 3 TD, 4 INT, 71.5 rating, 14 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 1 - 18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating, 6 rush yds
WK 2 - 14/22 (63.6%), 163 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 101.1 rating, -2 rush yds
TOTAL: 32/53 (60.4%), 435 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT, 91.3 rating, 4 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 1 - 19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating, 16 rush yds
WK 2 - 23/35 (65.7%), 242 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 85.7 rating, 28 rush yds
TOTAL: 42/61 (68.9%), 453 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 89.0 rating, 44 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campell (+8.5%), Sanchez, Cutler
Yds = Cutler (+60 yds), Campbell, Sanchez
TDs = Cutler (3), Sanchez (2), Campbell (1)
INTs = Campbell/Sanchez (1 ea), Cutler (4)
QB rating = Sanchez (+2.3), Campbell, Cutler (horrible)
Rush yds = Campbell (44), Cutler (14), Sanchez (4)


Campbell is holding his own, if not outperforming the others in nearly every category. His teammates have dropped many TD passes, but he is not throwing INTs either. Cutler is either in first or last in the categories, so he helps and hurts his team equally. Sanchez is doing well for a rookie, but Campbell's numbers still look better. Also, he has a smart mobility that neither of the other two have. He can take off and run for a 1st down if his receivers are covered, as well as any QB in the league.

I was supportive of keeping JC and completely against getting Cutler. Looks like I am justified.

It's not Campbell's fault that Zorn is blowing red-zone playcalls and critical TD passes are being dropped. He's showing more leadership this season and will have a great year when things start clicking on offense.

Good post, love the stats!

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Buster

UPDATED stats/assessment:

Cutler:
WK 1 - 17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating, 16 rush yds
WK 2 - 27/38 (71.1%), 236 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 104.7 rating, -2 rush yds
TOTAL: 44/77 (59.5%), 513 yds, 3 TD, 4 INT, 71.5 rating, 14 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 1 - 18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating, 6 rush yds
WK 2 - 14/22 (63.6%), 163 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT, 101.1 rating, -2 rush yds
TOTAL: 32/53 (60.4%), 435 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT, 91.3 rating, 4 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 1 - 19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating, 16 rush yds
WK 2 - 23/35 (65.7%), 242 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT, 85.7 rating, 28 rush yds
TOTAL: 42/61 (68.9%), 453 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 89.0 rating, 44 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campell (+8.5%), Sanchez, Cutler
Yds = Cutler (+60 yds), Campbell, Sanchez
TDs = Cutler (3), Sanchez (2), Campbell (1)
INTs = Campbell/Sanchez (1 ea), Cutler (4)
QB rating = Sanchez (+2.3), Campbell, Cutler (horrible)
Rush yds = Campbell (44), Cutler (14), Sanchez (4)


Campbell is holding his own, if not outperforming the others in nearly every category. His teammates have dropped many TD passes, but he is not throwing INTs either. Cutler is either in first or last in the categories, so he helps and hurts his team equally. Sanchez is doing well for a rookie, but Campbell's numbers still look better. Also, he has a smart mobility that neither of the other two have. He can take off and run for a 1st down if his receivers are covered, as well as any QB in the league.

I was supportive of keeping JC and completely against getting Cutler. Looks like I am justified.

It's not Campbell's fault that Zorn is blowing red-zone playcalls and critical TD passes are being dropped. He's showing more leadership this season and will have a great year when things start clicking on offense.

Good post i'm a JC supporter it's only 2 games and JC's only going to improve.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Good post i'm a JC supporter it's only 2 games and JC's only going to improve.

I am in total agreement. Zorn has to improve on his playcalling in a BIG way. JC is not what people make him out to be. Its been the same story even when Gibbs was here. Receivers dropping balls and trouble in the endzone.

I will say this though. Everything is slowly coming along. Last week we couldn't move the ball. this week we moved the ball with ease. Last week our defense didn't do squat. This week they held the rams to 7 points. Probbaly could have shut them out if not for a play here or there.

If we improve on our rush defense and score in the redzone atleast twice next week we will be headed the right way as far as progression.

Who better than to run rampant on the Lions.

Then we have Tampa Bay coming up which doesn't look that bad. Only threat is Cadillac. So we could easily be 3-1 eventhough we been playing like crap. Then Panthers and Chiefs? We might go 5-1. I see that as being possible eventhough we haven't had our "A" game yet. This schedule definitely works in our favor. So maybe we will be clicking on all gears when we reach the ATL game.