can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not that I'm suggesting that these are anything but loaded terms, but couldn't Brian Schottenheimer's passing offense charitably be described as boring and unimaginative?

One man's "boring and unimaginative" is another man's "effective and efficient"

Seriously though, I think B Schott often unfairly gets labeled boring because of his last name.

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

One man's "boring and unimaginative" is another man's "effective and efficient"

Seriously though, I think B Schott often unfairly gets labeled boring because of his last name.

Isn't he at least partially responsible for moving from a franchise QB with durability issues in Pennington to Kellen Clemens to Brett Favre and finally to Sanchez? I'm missing what makes his slow and steady passing game so appealing while Zorn's is so irritating (not necessarily the opinion of the author of these comments).

I think a Zorn -> Schotty Jr. transition would go well, but in the end, the offense would be more or less under a similar philosophy.

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Isn't he at least partially responsible for moving from a franchise QB with durability issues in Pennington to Kellen Clemens to Brett Favre and finally to Sanchez? I'm missing what makes his slow and steady passing game so appealing while Zorn's is so irritating (not necessarily the opinion of the author of these comments).

I think a Zorn -> Schotty Jr. transition would go well, but in the end, the offense would be more or less under a similar philosophy.

I don't follow your first line there.

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't follow your first line there.

When he came to the Jets in 2006, Pennington was firmly entrenched as the starter, but was coming off of two lost injury seasons in the last three years. He had a fantastic 2006 season, but when the offense fell apart in 2007, the Jets made a coaching move to go with Kellen Clemens at quarterback.

It's debatable as to what role that had in bringing in Favre, and subsequently Sanchez, but how valuable is a coach who loses with/benches Chad Pennington anyway? That's a pretty glaring misevaluation, though I'm certainly in no position to say who's call that was.

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

When he came to the Jets in 2006, Pennington was firmly entrenched as the starter, but was coming off of two lost injury seasons in the last three years. He had a fantastic 2006 season, but when the offense fell apart in 2007, the Jets made a coaching move to go with Kellen Clemens at quarterback.

It's debatable as to what role that had in bringing in Favre, and subsequently Sanchez, but how valuable is a coach who loses with/benches Chad Pennington anyway? That's a pretty glaring misevaluation, though I'm certainly in no position to say who's call that was.

Maybe it's because I'm tired, but I'm just not following? Are you saying Schott could/should be at fault for Pennington not still being the starter there?

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Maybe it's because I'm tired, but I'm just not following? Are you saying Schott could/should be at fault for Pennington not still being the starter there?

I'm saying it's someone's fault other than Chad Pennington. Then I'm asking if you think Schottenheimer had anything to do with that.

I also was trying to point out that the Jets made a questionable quarterback decision in each of the last three seasons, and while that's certainly a personnel issue (I kinda think Tannenbaum is a dolt), I'm wondering what role the Mangini/Schottenheimer combo had in screwing up the QB situation.

If Schotty can be completely absolved from the mess with his QBs in NY, couldn't a similar argument work as a defense for Zorn not breaking through here?

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Give me Cam Cameron any day.

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm saying it's someone's fault other than Chad Pennington. Then I'm asking if you think Schottenheimer had anything to do with that.

I also was trying to point out that the Jets made a questionable quarterback decision in each of the last three seasons, and while that's certainly a personnel issue (I kinda think Tannenbaum is a dolt), I'm wondering what role the Mangini/Schottenheimer combo had in screwing up the QB situation.

If Schotty can be completely absolved from the mess with his QBs in NY, couldn't a similar argument work as a defense for Zorn not breaking through here?

Well I think Schottenheimer had little if anything to do with deciding who he was coaching, just asked to do the best he could with who he had. Thought he did a nice job of working with Brees and Rivers in San Diego, and the aforementioned Jets QBs.

But to my earlier point, I was just stating that having seen both Jets games and both Redskins games I like that Schott is showing confidence in Sanchez at critical junctures that I don't always see from Zorn to Campbell.