Will JC Get a Contract Extension From His Stats or Playoff Berth?

[irish]

I'm not sure that no matter what JC does (except a Super Bowl win) he will get a contract extension. I just dont think the HC or FO have much confidence in him anymore.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by irish

I'm not sure that no matter what JC does (except a Super Bowl win) he will get a contract extension. I just dont think the HC or FO have much confidence in him anymore.

What makes you say that right now? Because the only thing that Zorn's playcalling is doing is making Zorn look bad. I think if JC gets good stats but not that many Ws, that will be fine for him b/c his stats will land him a new contract somewhere else. I think now more than ever, Zorn is depending on JC to do well and get the Ws for the sake of his job.

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

DS doesnt want to have a "game manager" at QB. He openly went out of his way to get a Pro Bowl QB who puts points on the board and throws for 300 yards a game. Thats what he wants, not a 200 yd a game QB who hands the ball of and makes a good throw when the team needs it. I may be wrong but this is what i get from the latest actions of our FO.

Well DS doesn't want a game manager because he wants to win now...but like I said earlier, if the team win, that won't matter.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

What makes you say that right now? Because the only thing that Zorn's playcalling is doing is making Zorn look bad. I think if JC gets good stats but not that many Ws, that will be fine for him b/c his stats will land him a new contract somewhere else. I think now more than ever, Zorn is depending on JC to do well and get the Ws for the sake of his job.



Well DS doesn't want a game manager because he wants to win now...but like I said earlier, if the team win, that won't matter.

I think Zorn's calls the plays to minimize JC's weakness at QB and like you said, right now he looks bad for doing it.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by irish

I think Zorn's calls the plays to minimize JC's weakness at QB and like you said, right now he looks bad for doing it.

Yes but in the end, Campbell comes out with a good statistical game, and Zorn comes out like he has no balls in the RZ. If what you say is true, Zorn has a big problem and he needs to figure out how to minimize JC's weaknesses and win games, because like I said he's the one looking bad right now, not Campbell.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yes but in the end, Campbell comes out with a good statistical game, and Zorn comes out like he has no balls in the RZ. If what you say is true, Zorn has a big problem and he needs to figure out how to minimize JC's weaknesses and win games, because like I said he's the one looking bad right now, not Campbell.

I agree Zorn looks bad and I'm sure he knows he looks bad. I'm also sure Zorn doesnt care about JC's stats as long as the team wins so all involved will continue to work to maximize the opportunity to win.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by irish

I think Zorn's calls the plays to minimize JC's weakness at QB and like you said, right now he looks bad for doing it.

I dont think Zorn is psychic, he doesnt have a "crystal ball" on the sidelines. He is an idiot if this is the way he wants to coach, he will never be successful, and neither will Campbell. Why not open up the playbook, call your damn plays, and we will find out if JC sinks or swims. Right now JC looks capable, and the plays(especially in the redzone) look questionable. Take off the handcuffs and lets see if the guy can play quarterback, otherwise its just Zorns best guess of what he thinks JC can handle.

I prefer a game manager, not the gunslinger(Cutler, Romo) so Im hoping that he continues to progress. JC has all the talent in the world, Im not sure why Zorn doesnt feel he cant "handle" whatever he wants to throw at him. I really dont buy this reasoning, I feel like Zorn is just over his head and not a very good playcaller.

In the end, its about wins/losses....all the stats in the world wont matter.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by roth74va

I dont think Zorn is psychic, he doesnt have a "crystal ball" on the sidelines. He is an idiot if this is the way he wants to coach, he will never be successful, and neither will Campbell. Why not open up the playbook, call your damn plays, and we will find out if JC sinks or swims. Right now JC looks capable, and the plays(especially in the redzone) look questionable. Take off the handcuffs and lets see if the guy can play quarterback, otherwise its just Zorns best guess of what he thinks JC can handle.

I prefer a game manager, not the gunslinger(Cutler, Romo) so Im hoping that he continues to progress. JC has all the talent in the world, Im not sure why Zorn doesnt feel he cant "handle" whatever he wants to throw at him. I really dont buy this reasoning, I feel like Zorn is just over his head and not a very good playcaller.

In the end, its about wins/losses....all the stats in the world wont matter.

If you throw it all on Zorn then you also need to add Gibbs to that list.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If you throw it all on Zorn then you also need to add Gibbs to that list.

I understand your reasoning, but I disagree. Gibbs "guy" was Brunell, and Campbell should be far more seasoned by now. Zorn came in as the "QB guru", its how he became known as a coach, and was how he got the job. He has had two seasons to work with him, so the excuses are a little late IMO. I feel like the whole "he isnt able to call plays because JC cant handle them" excuse is crap.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by roth74va

I understand your reasoning, but I disagree. Gibbs "guy" was Brunell, and Campbell should be far more seasoned by now. Zorn came in as the "QB guru", its how he became known as a coach, and was how he got the job. He has had two seasons to work with him, so the excuses are a little late IMO. I feel like the whole "he isnt able to call plays because JC cant handle them" excuse is crap.

What!!!! Gibbs traded up in the draft to get JC.

[nyredskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

What makes you say that right now? Because the only thing that Zorn's playcalling is doing is making Zorn look bad. I think if JC gets good stats but not that many Ws, that will be fine for him b/c his stats will land him a new contract somewhere else. I think now more than ever, Zorn is depending on JC to do well and get the Ws for the sake of his job.



Well DS doesn't want a game manager because he wants to win now...but like I said earlier, if the team win, that won't matter.

Did you ever think that maybe Zorn is calling plays that he thinks Campbell can execute and he doesn't call plays that Campbell hasn't been able to grasp?

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by nyredskinsfan

Did you ever think that maybe Zorn is calling plays that he thinks Campbell can execute and he doesn't call plays that Campbell hasn't been able to grasp?

He thinks, he thinks, he thinks.....bottom line is he doesnt KNOW anything! Roll the dice, if the guy falls on his face, we know what the next step will be. The way this is unfolding, neither will be here next year and we are starting over AGAIN!

[Monkeydad]

His stats should do it for him even if we don't make the playoffs (we will).

Here's how he compares to the coveted offseason QB and draft pick:

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post593004

[nyredskinsfan]

Originally Posted by roth74va

He thinks, he thinks, he thinks.....bottom line is he doesnt KNOW anything! Roll the dice, if the guy falls on his face, we know what the next step will be. The way this is unfolding, neither will be here next year and we are starting over AGAIN!

The dice has been rolled. Next year, no Campbell as starter. Zorn will still be the HC. Remember, Zorn inherited Campbell.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by roth74va

He thinks, he thinks, he thinks.....bottom line is he doesnt KNOW anything! Roll the dice, if the guy falls on his face, we know what the next step will be. The way this is unfolding, neither will be here next year and we are starting over AGAIN!

Lets see Zorn was a QB, a QB coach and now he doesn't know anything. Who the heck sits there and watches JC in practice day after day and maybe he knows more about JC and why we looked to trade him. I guess the other team and coaches that did not come running to get JC also no nothing. JC has tried like 6 or 7 deep passes in preaseason and the reg. season and has not completed the long one yet. On all but one of those plays was the guy not open but I guess this is just more of Zorns issue and not JC's. This same problem was here with Gibbs so at what point do we stop blamming the D, O line, WR's, coaches, and who ever else you want to add to that list and not JC?

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Lets see Zorn was a QB, a QB coach and now he doesn't know anything.

He was a horrible QB, and although he was apparently good as a QB coach, he came here with ZERO playcalling experience. I like the guy, he is a great person, but his playcalling needs to be questioned.