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Old 09-23-2009, 08:55 AM   #1
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Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis

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Going it for it was kind of stupid cause a fg could've won the game. I think you've gotta kick it there. But fine, if you want to go for it then have some damn variety in your run game. Everyone knew where the ball was going. I honestly think we need to try the wildcat w/ Betts and Portis. We need to do something, anything at this point to try and score more points.
I knew it was going to be a matter of time before someone watched the Miami game or the Eagles (with Vick) and suggested running the wildcat...

Two things:
1) The wildcat is a gimmick! It's just a matter of time and more importantly focus b4 NFL defenses (especially with athletically superior defensive ends) will find a way to stuff it completely. They don't practice to stop it like they do with other things that NFL offenses do b/c it's a trick set. Just because it worked for Miami against an Indy team that isn't good at stopping the run doesn't mean it's a viable solution for OUR redskin's team. The next time Miami plays a good run defense, I guarantee it won't have near that success level.

2) If, and it's a big IF, we are to put in some sets with the wildcat, ARE is much better suited to play under center, than either of those two. He was a good college QB, can run pretty well, and throw better than some of our backups (*cough* Collins). Plus IMO he has a better football mind than either Betts or Portis.

The bottom line is most people are complaining about scoring points and villifying Zorn for using too many trick plays (see: Portis' option pass). Why should we divert valuable practice reps, that a struggling offense like ours desperately needs, so we can make a half hearted attempt at copycatting the new "in" thing that desperate coaches throw into their playbook? Let's not reinvent the wheel, and just execute like we SHOULD be able to do.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:51 AM   #2
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Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis

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I knew it was going to be a matter of time before someone watched the Miami game or the Eagles (with Vick) and suggested running the wildcat...

Two things:
1) The wildcat is a gimmick! It's just a matter of time and more importantly focus b4 NFL defenses (especially with athletically superior defensive ends) will find a way to stuff it completely. They don't practice to stop it like they do with other things that NFL offenses do b/c it's a trick set. Just because it worked for Miami against an Indy team that isn't good at stopping the run doesn't mean it's a viable solution for OUR redskin's team. The next time Miami plays a good run defense, I guarantee it won't have near that success level.

2) If, and it's a big IF, we are to put in some sets with the wildcat, ARE is much better suited to play under center, than either of those two. He was a good college QB, can run pretty well, and throw better than some of our backups (*cough* Collins). Plus IMO he has a better football mind than either Betts or Portis.

The bottom line is most people are complaining about scoring points and villifying Zorn for using too many trick plays (see: Portis' option pass). Why should we divert valuable practice reps, that a struggling offense like ours desperately needs, so we can make a half hearted attempt at copycatting the new "in" thing that desperate coaches throw into their playbook? Let's not reinvent the wheel, and just execute like we SHOULD be able to do.
To think, the Wildcat technically began here with the Redskins with Norv Turner and Brian Mitchell. We are the birthplace of the Wildcat
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Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis

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To think, the Wildcat technically began here with the Redskins with Norv Turner and Brian Mitchell. We are the birthplace of the Wildcat
Elaborate please? Are you referring to the option play in Denver with Brian Mitchell back in 1995?

According to the Monday Night broadcast, David Lee, who is the Dolphins' QB coach, brought the Wildcat over from his days as QB coach/offensive coordinator of the Arkansas Razorbacks.

One might even be able to make the argument that the Wildcat actually began with Joe Gibbs and Brian Mitchell in the "Bodybag Game" back in '90. Mitchell took over at QB and took many direct snaps in that game.
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Elaborate please? Are you referring to the option play in Denver with Brian Mitchell back in 1995?

According to the Monday Night broadcast, David Lee, who is the Dolphins' QB coach, brought the Wildcat over from his days as QB coach/offensive coordinator of the Arkansas Razorbacks.

One might even be able to make the argument that the Wildcat actually began with Joe Gibbs and Brian Mitchell in the "Bodybag Game" back in '90. Mitchell took over at QB and took many direct snaps in that game.
Well I think it was actually Gus Malzahn at Arkansas who introduced the Wildcat to the Razorbacks. I can't remember where I saw this, but I remember Malzahn saying that when he saw Norv Turner put Mitchell in single-wing (Wildcat) formations he know it could work at a college/pro level. Up until then it was only at the high school level. I'll look for a link
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