The Redskins Are Close

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Hog1

A......few things:
1) If we were Eagle fans we would have burned the Vet to the ground some time ago.
2) This is the biggest game of Zorn's career
3) We WILL indeed find out much about our team and coach over the next few weeks.
4) I agree, they're CLOSE
5) If winning ugly is the formula for now, let's take it god damnit

CAN I get a HELL YAH?
IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME
HTTR

Winning ugly against teams like the Rams and Lions?...That equates to losing ugly to the competitive teams in this league.

How the hell are the Skins close? What have the Redskins shown you the past two weeks that makes them close to anything but the basement of the NFC?

And if this Zorn's biggest game of his career then I feel sorry for Zorn's career. Those are some pathetic expectations you have for Zorn this year.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Winning ugly against teams like the Rams and Lions?...That equates to losing ugly to the competitive teams in this league.

How the hell are the Skins close? What have the Redskins shown you the past two weeks that makes them close to anything but the basement of the NFC?

And if this Zorn's biggest game of his career then I feel sorry for Zorn's career. Those are some pathetic expectations you have for Zorn this year.

How do you think we're not close is the question? It's not like the Giants blew us out. We're talking about one, two plays that turned that game. And..umm...we did beat the Rams.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

How do you think we're not close is the question? It's not like the Giants blew us out. We're talking about one, two plays that turned that game. And..umm...we did beat the Rams.

The Giants beat us by two TD's. Our garbage time, prevent defense TD at the end of the game doesn't count to keeping it close. I don't know if you watched that game but the Skins were clearly dominated.

We needed to rely 100% on Shawn Suisham just to win the Rams game by two points...need I say more?


If you intended to say the Redskins are close to beating the worse teams in the NFL then your statement is accurate.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

The Giants beat us by two TD's. Our garbage time, prevent defense TD at the end of the game doesn't count to keeping it close. I don't know if you watched that game but the Skins were clearly dominated.

We needed to rely 100% on Shawn Suisham just to win the Rams game by two points...need I say more?


If you intended to say the Redskins are close to beating the worse teams in the NFL then your statement is accurate.

No I meant it the way I said it. We're close to be a solid 10-6 team. Look, all of this we barely beat a weak team, therefore we can't beat the good teams doesn't fly. You don't know 'til you know. And in the NFL, any given Sunday is true everytime a team kicks the ball off. Hate to sound cliche, but it's true.

Look, you can find a couple of threads around here where I'm ripping Zorn's play calling last week and how this is possibly his most important game. I actually still feel that way, but I also feel that we're not that far off from being a really solid football team. We'll find out though, won't we?

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

No I meant it the way I said it. We're close to be a solid 10-6 team. Look, all of this we barely beat a weak team, therefore we can't beat the good teams doesn't fly. You don't know 'til you know. And in the NFL, any given Sunday is true everytime a team kicks the ball off. Hate to sound cliche, but it's true.

Look, you can find a couple of threads around here where I'm ripping Zorn's play calling last week and how this is his possibly his most important game. I actually still feel that way, but I also feel that we're not that far off from being a really solid football team. We'll find out though, won't we?

I agree with that but the way you go about playing that team plays a huge factor to your future success.

If the Skins lost players during the game due to injury or had some freak turnovers to cause that close game then you could reason that it's not a real indication.

We had our full roster AND a full 60 minutes to show a clearly inferior team who was better that day. That inferior opponent showed us that they are just as good as we are that Sunday. There were hardly any freak turnovers or other game changing plays.


It was straight up with no wild cards and we struggled to edge them out. That to me is an indication of overall strength.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I agree with that but the way you go about playing that team plays a huge factor to your future success.

If the Skins lost players during the game due to injury or had some freak turnovers to cause that close game then you could reason that it's not a real indication.

We had our full roster AND a full 60 minutes to show a clearly inferior team who was better that day. That inferior opponent showed us that they are just as good as we are that Sunday. There were hardly any freak turnovers or other game changing plays.


It was straight up with no wild cards and we struggled to edge them out. That to me is an indication of overall strength.

I think the defensive turnover that called back because of the fluke roughing the passer was a game changer. I think Moss' fumble while we're driving wasn't a game changer, but a momentum killer. Sellers scores easily if holds that ball.

Maybe we're coming away from the Rams game with two different perspectives, but I think it's reasonable to believe the Redskins could have put up 21 on the Rams.

[DCtoAZ]

so your saying we can't score 44 points ?? why not .. this can't go on forever .. you and all the other haters can suck it .. i'll be the one saying i told you so when we do drop a monster number of the Lions .. all the negative posts around here are so typical .. MOVE THE F ON ... one play changed the Giants game .. one freaking play


SKINS will drop 40 .. Suck It

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

so your saying we can't score 44 points ?? why not .. this can't go on forever .. you and all the other haters can suck it .. i'll be the one saying i told you so when we do drop a monster number of the Lions .. all the negative posts around here are so typical .. MOVE THE F ON ... one play changed the Giants game .. one freaking play


SKINS will drop 40 .. Suck It

I don't know what we're sucking, but I agree it can't go on forever. Can it?

[JIM KENYI]

Redskins- 30 Lions 14

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

The Giants beat us by two TD's. Our garbage time, prevent defense TD at the end of the game doesn't count to keeping it close. I don't know if you watched that game but the Skins were clearly dominated.

We needed to rely 100% on Shawn Suisham just to win the Rams game by two points...need I say more?


If you intended to say the Redskins are close to beating the worse teams in the NFL then your statement is accurate.

NFL.com decided to leave it on the scoreboard, for what it's worth.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

NFL.com decided to leave it on the scoreboard, for what it's worth.

Ok then...we'll go the long way about it.

We needed to score a touchdown in the last minute and a half of the game just to be down by one touchdown.

...still doesn't sound close to me.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Ok then...we'll go the long way about it.

We needed to score a touchdown in the last minute and a half of the game just to be down by one touchdown.

...still doesn't sound close to me.

Long way works for me.

You know that game was decided by the outcome of an onside kick right? If you're suggesting that they let us in the end zone by design, you're accusing the entire Giants coaching staff of incompetence.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Long way works for me.

You know that game was decided by the outcome of an onside kick right? If you're suggesting that they let us in the end zone by design, you're accusing the entire Giants coaching staff of incompetence.

It's called the prevent defense.

They let us down the field didn't they? They weren't doing that the previous 3 and half quarters.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Winning ugly against teams like the Rams and Lions?...That equates to losing ugly to the competitive teams in this league.

How the hell are the Skins close? What have the Redskins shown you the past two weeks that makes them close to anything but the basement of the NFC?

And if this Zorn's biggest game of his career then I feel sorry for Zorn's career. Those are some pathetic expectations you have for Zorn this year.

Dude, there are plenty of threads where you can go and piss on the corn flakes. Shit, can you at least let us have this thread for those of us with a glimmer of hope? Thanks.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Winning ugly against teams like the Rams and Lions?...That equates to losing ugly to the competitive teams in this league.

How the hell are the Skins close? What have the Redskins shown you the past two weeks that makes them close to anything but the basement of the NFC?

And if this Zorn's biggest game of his career then I feel sorry for Zorn's career. Those are some pathetic expectations you have for Zorn this year.

Hard to argue w/ what you say Skinny. I sorta feel sorry for Zorn already...

Back to the original post and the question about taking a different perspective, well I basically get that every game, watching the Skins w/ friends who are Vikings, Broncos, Raiders and Niners fans. I mean usually they just laugh at how inept the offense looks and especially how lost Zorn looks on the sidelines. However on Sunday when Zorn called that sweep left on 4th and a foot, putting the ball 5 yards behind the LOS when we hadn't been able to run all day and every person watching expects us to run left behind Chris Samuels...well at that point there was just total silence for a few seconds until I screamed at the TV. I mean it was like "no effing way did that really just happen," so basically the alternate perspective is to be speechless