The Redskins Are Close

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I don't disagree that a hardnose football team can consistently win games ugly but I really don't consider us a hard nosed team. That's what makes our offense so sketchy to begin with.

If we had a hard nosed offense our offensive line would be WAY better and it would be opening up holes for our backs. That is not happening. We have a fairly feeble rushing line and we don't wear down defenses by being on the field so much and dragging our drives with the run game.

I'm fine with winning ugly on the back of a strong rushing offense...that isn't the case here. We won ugly with an inept offense and a defense that spent way too long on the field.

Outside the redzone, I would disagree with the assertion that are offense was inept but that's just my opinion (based on the facts that (a) we held the ball for 35 minis. and (b) we had 5 long drives of 13 plays or more).

As for the defense being on the field to long? That's just a stupid, baseless statement. We had a 10 minute time of possesion advantage over them. Our defense was on the field 25 minutes - less than half the game. Those are numbers teams strive for.

If you want to criticize, fine. But at least stick to the facts.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Outside the redzone, I would disagree with the assertion that are offense was inept but that's just my opinion (based on the facts that (a) we held the ball for 35 minis. and (b) we had 5 long drives of 13 plays or more).

As for the defense being on the field to long? That's just a stupid, baseless statement. We had a 10 minute time of possesion advantage over them. Our defense was on the field 25 minutes - less than half the game. Those are numbers teams strive for.

If you want to criticize, fine. But at least stick to the facts.

My only criticism between the 20s is they consistently require too many plays and too much time to get down the field. They only had 7 possessions against the Rams. I believe the average is 12. Hard to score a lot of points when you're limited to 7 possessions. Even if they scored a TD on every trip to the red zone, they would have scored only 28 points (or maybe 35?). Teams are scoring 30 plus with regularity these days.

It doesn't help that the D can't hold anyone to a 3 and out, but they're doing their job just fine. The O needs to get yards in chunks.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

My only criticism between the 20s is they consistently require too many plays and too much time to get down the field. They only had 7 possessions against the Rams. I believe the average is 12. Hard to score a lot of points when you're limited to 7 possessions. Even if they scored a TD on every trip to the red zone, they would have scored only 28 points (or maybe 35?). Teams are scoring 30 plus with regularity these days.

It doesn't help that the D can't hold anyone to a 3 and out, but they're doing their job just fine. The O needs to get yards in chunks.

This is one of these "no matter what the Redskins do they lose in public opinion" cases.

against the Giants, the Skins had 2 end of half quick scoring long drives (both over 70 yds, both resulting in 7 points)

against the Rams, the Skins had 5 drives over 50 yards, all long time consuming, keep the Defense off the field, type drives.

Skinny has complained that the quick end of half drives don't count because, they were quick and at the end of half's

you argue that the long slow drives don't count because they require too many plays and too much time.

Last I checked it's a good thing if your team can:

- drive down at the end of the first half, against a top rated D, and get 7 points is a good thing.

- have long sustained drives that keep your opponent's offense off the field.

but somehow the Skins manage to do both, and still manage to give the appearance on the field that they don't have offensive cohesion.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This is one of these "no matter what the Redskins do they lose in public opinion" cases.

against the Giants, the Skins had 2 end of half quick scoring long drives (both over 70 yds, both resulting in 7 points)

against the Rams, the Skins had 5 drives over 50 yards, all long time consuming, keep the Defense off the field, type drives.

Skinny has complained that the quick end of half drives don't count because, they were quick and at the end of half's

you argue that the long slow drives don't count because they require too many plays and too much time.

Last I checked it's a good thing if your team can:

- drive down at the end of the first half, against a top rated D, and get 7 points is a good thing.

- have long sustained drives that keep your opponent's offense off the field.

but somehow the Skins manage to do both, and still manage to give the appearance on the field that they don't have offensive cohesion.

And wear down the opposing defense I might add. I thought that was a good thing, no? Winning the "time of possession" battle is always a goal. You want to give their offense as few chances to score as you can don't you?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

And wear down the opposing defense I might add. I thought that was a good thing, no? Winning the "time of possession" battle is always a goal. You want to give their offense as few chances to score as you can don't you?

That's what I always thought was "true Redskins football" and NFC East style games. I thought it was actually high praise of Zorn when Spagnoula told him it felt like an NFC East game.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That's what I always thought was "true Redskins football" and NFC East style games. I thought it was actually high praise of Zorn when Spagnoula told him it felt like an NFC East game.

And that he appreciated what he did at the end. The game was over and we took a knee instead of trying to score. The goal was to win. We accomplished that. I feel like a lot of the criticism about this game is unwarranted. IMO the goal is to win and improve from game to game so that by the end of the year, you are hopefully playing your best football. It's hard to tell after 2 games but it appears that's what we're doing. Hopefully we continue that today. It's time to move forward.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Outside the redzone, I would disagree with the assertion that are offense was inept but that's just my opinion (based on the facts that (a) we held the ball for 35 minis. and (b) we had 5 long drives of 13 plays or more).

As for the defense being on the field to long? That's just a stupid, baseless statement. We had a 10 minute time of possesion advantage over them. Our defense was on the field 25 minutes - less than half the game. Those are numbers teams strive for.

If you want to criticize, fine. But at least stick to the facts.

I think my assesment was correct. You just saw the facts today.