Now What??

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by bertoskins2

if Greg williams was the coach, this team should be in better position

He at least has enough previous NFL coaching experience to fill out his coaching ranks and then be accountable for the people that he brought in.

Not this mix and match crap where Zorn isn't even monitoring or managing the defensive players.

The mix and match coaching ranks is an atrocity!...effing ridiculous that it is even considered and then executed on an NFL team.

[GTripp0012]

We're deep enough on the defense so that there should be options for a good coordiator to bench the non-contributors.

You pretty much have to take the offense at face value. You have a QB who can get the ball down the field for yards, but has only 3 TD passes in 3 weeks. The team only has one rushing TD in that timeframe, so it's not like if Campbell is just getting a poor proportion of the team's TD production. He actually has 75% of it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We're deep enough on the defense so that there should be options for a good coordiator to bench the non-contributors.

You pretty much have to take the offense at face value. You have a QB who can get the ball down the field for yards, but has only 3 TD passes in 3 weeks. The team only has one rushing TD in that timeframe, so it's not like if Campbell is just getting a poor proportion of the team's TD production. He actually has 75% of it.

Who?????? Are you going to bench Rogers and put in Smoot or Tryon? Maybe put in Jarmon over Daniels but he was in there today and didn't get any pressure.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Who?????? Are you going to bench Rogers and put in Smoot or Tryon? Maybe put in Jarmon over Daniels but he was in there today and didn't get any pressure.

Smoot should be on the field never. Rogers and Hall can start at the corners for all I care, but if you bring someone off the bench in a package, make it Barnes or Tryon.

I'd just move Orakpo to RE at this point. I like Carter, and I think he's a good player, but if you need to bring him off the bench to have your best talent on the field, so be it. Daniels and Golston aren't helping right now.

The secondary may or may not be able to match up with anybody the whole year, but we don't have to let people take 8:00 minutes to drive down the field. We can try some cover two shell to take some pressure off of the corners, or you can go for broke and play cover zero with the corners having deep responsibilty. Cover one and three just don't seem to work for this personnel. Man has been a little bit better, but we can either man-blitz, or play tighter underneath coverage.

Sure, we might give up more points, but the offense needs to get on the field more than three times a half. If we're really not a good defense, let's not keep delaying the inevitable.

[itvnetop]

After getting eviscerated by the NBC Sunday night crew, Peter King says Zorn is not on the hotseat- they'd have to find three coaches to fill his three positions (Head and QB coach/playcaller).

Rodney Harrison said he doesn't understand what the Skins see in JC. Dungy doesn't put it all on JC, but thinks it's definitely a systemic issue within the organization. Patrick called us a fantasy team. Par for the course...

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

After getting eviscerated by the NBC Sunday night crew, Peter King says Zorn is not on the hotseat- they'd have to find three coaches to fill his three positions (Head and QB coach/playcaller).

Rodney Harrison said he doesn't understand what the Skins see in JC. Dungy doesn't put it all on JC, but thinks it's definitely a systemic issue within the organization. Patrick called us a fantasy team. Par for the course...

Just finished watching that as well. thought Dungys' take was spot on.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

After getting eviscerated by the NBC Sunday night crew, Peter King says Zorn is not on the hotseat- they'd have to find three coaches to fill his three positions (Head and QB coach/playcaller).

Rodney Harrison said he doesn't understand what the Skins see in JC. Dungy doesn't put it all on JC, but thinks it's definitely a systemic issue within the organization. Patrick called us a fantasy team. Par for the course...

That's untrue. Cause we have the OC Smith, and some lame assistant to Zorn as QB coach.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

After getting eviscerated by the NBC Sunday night crew, Peter King says Zorn is not on the hotseat- they'd have to find three coaches to fill his three positions (Head and QB coach/playcaller).

Rodney Harrison said he doesn't understand what the Skins see in JC. Dungy doesn't put it all on JC, but thinks it's definitely a systemic issue within the organization. Patrick called us a fantasy team. Par for the course...

Man I would love Dungy to come be a part of the Redskins. He identifies the issue right away, a systemic issue within the organization. It all starts from up top. Snyder has disgraced this frachise with his reign as owner and made us an unstable, inconsistant, embarrassment. Snyder needs to give up all football decisions to a real GM. Vinny needs to be fired. Snyder's way of fantasy football-like running of this ship has gotten old and it doesnt work. I like our team and our talent on it, but Zorn is not a head coach. I still support Blanche at this point.

[JLee9718]

I'm letting my emotions sidetrack my common sense...everyone has to be held accountable as someone said, and I agree with that. But Vinnie C. is part of the problem, Dan Snyder is part of the problem, and so is the entire coaching staff. There are no easy solutions to this mess.

PS: I'm changing my avatar!

[Green1]

I still think the D is the strength of our team. Look at the first 2 weeks if the O scores 20-25 points and keeps the d off the field so much we are 3-0

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Green1

I still think the D is the strength of our team. Look at the first 2 weeks if the O scores 20-25 points and keeps the d off the field so much we are 3-0

I agree. Look at the Ravens and Steelers. Even they're giving up points, the Ravens especially (maybe not today). The rules overwhelmingly favor the Offense, so it's unreasonable to ask the Defense to pitch shut outs every week. They gave up 13 points today and another 7 on a very questionable pass interference call. At some point, our Offense has to score points and get a lead on someone.

Our D would play much better if the opposing team was behind for once and had to be one-dimensional in order to pass their way back into the game. It's like when Collins came in a few years ago and started moving the Offense up and down the field. The O line blocked better, the Receivers played better, the RBs ran better and the Defense played better. And yes, I'm advocating a change at the QB position. Campbell's stats are fine, but he is paid to put points on the board and win games. Time for a change.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I agree. Look at the Ravens and Steelers. Even they're giving up points, the Ravens especially (maybe not today). The rules overwhelmingly favor the Offense, so it's unreasonable to ask the Defense to pitch shut outs every week. They gave up 13 points today and another 7 on a very questionable pass interference call. At some point, our Offense has to score points and get a lead on someone.

Last year the Ravens and Titans were pretty much winning games for their teams, and they had very little offense (now the Ravens are pretty much a complete team). Last week, the Giants D kept their offense in the game, and their defense has scored points. With as much money as the team has spent on the defense, you expect them to be the stronger unit and winning games.

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Our D would play much better if the opposing team was behind for once and had to be one-dimensional in order to pass their way back into the game. It's like when Collins came in a few years ago and started moving the Offense up and down the field. The O line blocked better, the Receivers played better, the RBs ran better and the Defense played better. And yes, I'm advocating a change at the QB position. Campbell's stats are fine, but he is paid to put points on the board and win games. Time for a change.

When your QB throws for over 300 yds and 2 TDs, and loses the game, there's something wrong with the team. You are obviously not a fan of Campbell and just say that. When he throws for 60 yds and two or three picks, then you can call for a QB change.

[BleedBurgundy]

I think Zorn is gone by noon tomorrow. Whoever we get, I hope they are an absolute asshole, who instills some discipline and work ethic in this group of underachievers.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I think Zorn is gone by noon tomorrow. Whoever we get, I hope they are an absolute asshole, who instills some discipline and work ethic in this group of underachievers.

Out of all the HC's mentions I only see a couple that fit your requirements....Cowher and Gruden. Gruden definitly knows the WCO not sure about Cowher.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Pretty simple if you ask me. Zorn has demonstrated repeatedly that he is not head coach material.

Case and point for the jackasses that dispute every word I type.

Zorn, undisputedly and singlehandedly, cost us 7 points today. We lost by 5 to the worst franchise in the NFL. Nice knowing ya... Learn how to playcall and head coach on someone elses time...

Btw. Snyder, you are an idiot too. You hired a quarterback coach with no playcalling or head coaching experience to run what used to be one of the best franchises in the league. Go sue some more grandmothers you 5 4 piece of shit.

There, I feel slightly better.