This loss could be the best thing to happen to his franchise.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

In my 30 years of being a Redskins fan, this is an all time low. Worse than losing the 1 game to the 1-15 Cowboys. Worse than losing 38-9 in the Super Bowl. Worse than any Spurrier loss or even the Coach 'Robinskie' era. We lost to a team that hadn't won a game in 20 months. Any team would be embarrassed by today's effort and result. It just happens to have happened to us.

So now what? I think Dan Snyder has to now acknowledge that it's not working. This is not just a loss, this is an organizational failure. This is a failure of management, coaching and players. This is an organizational opportunity to reset. If Snyder reacts by firing Zorn tomorrow, that would be a typical, old Snyder knee jerk reaction. I hope he gets the realization that it's not working and takes a few measured steps to correcting the course of the franchise.

What I'd like to see Snyder do tomorrow is start the search immediately for a President of Football Operations. Instead of operating from the sideline up, we need drastic change from the front office down. There are some people available (Casserly, Holmgren, Floyd Reese, Bruce Allen) that Snyder could bring in now and allow them to take the season to evaluate the roster, the front office staff and the coaching staff. He doesn't need to make a move on Zorn or Cerrato. Someone needs to come in and be our Parcells or Joe Banner. We need an experienced front office person to come in and set the direction for the football team. Let them make the decisions on the coach and GM.

Personally, I want Shanahan to be our coach for the next decade because I believe he's a brilliant and progressive offensive mind and one of our major problems for decades is lack of an offensive identity. But, I don't think he'll be any more successful than Turner, Schotty, Spurrier, Gibbs or Zorn under our current structure. Unless we have a strong front office structure and an organizational plan, we'll be wasting Shanahan's talent and more years of our players careers.

I know I'm not breaking any new ground with this post, but this is a crucial point for the future of the Washington Redskins. We can do business as usual or make a dramatic change in the way things are done in order to save this once proud franchise.

Not according to the press conference when Gibbs retired. When asked if it's time to get a general manager, and change up the player-personnel department, Snyder said, "I'm a firm believer, if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Dan Snyder doesn't think anything is wrong with the way this franchise is run.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Not according to the press conference when Gibbs retired. When asked if it's time to get a general manager, and change up the player-personnel department, Snyder said, "I'm a firm believer, if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Dan Snyder doesn't think anything is wrong with the way this franchise is run.

There is no reason for him to change. Redskins fans are major addicts and whatever bag of dope he feels like selling us he knows we will buy it.

[SFREDSKIN]

Hey Tony Dungy what are you doing?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Hey Tony Dungy what are you doing?

Hey, if he could get us moving like the Colts I'm all for it, but he didn't look that way with Tampa yrs a go. I think it was his OC.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Hey, if he could get us moving like the Colts I'm all for it, but he didn't look that way with Tampa yrs a go. I think it was his OC.

Dungy had a decent FO backing him up also. Dungy is a great coach, but without a decent FO he would be a waste.

[TheSmurfs22]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

There is no reason for him to change. Redskins fans are major addicts and whatever bag of dope he feels like selling us he knows we will buy it.

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That is why we got to start telling him that we aint buying it anymore.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

There is no reason for him to change. Redskins fans are major addicts and whatever bag of dope he feels like selling us he knows we will buy it.

Best post of the day. I went to the game and there were easily 10-15 thousand seats empty. When the Lions suck the folks of Detroit refuse to go see a bunch of overpaid bums. What do the Skins fans do when they go 5-11, they still beg for season tickets with a waiting line of years. No need for Snyder to do a god damn thing or not do a god damn thing. He is a billionaire and runs the show. He makes money and has made the Skins the most profitibale franchise on earth, and that is the bottom line. If the fans want to be blind fools to mediocrity that is their problem.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

There is no reason for him to change. Redskins fans are major addicts and whatever bag of dope he feels like selling us he knows we will buy it.

More like crack hoes.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

More like crack hoes.

Dude thanks for the laugh!! So true though. Man can I get another hit man I'll #$#2 your !@#@.

This is embarrassing. At least at this point if we can get it turned around in a couple of years maybe we can be the team of the 2010s.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

More like crack hoes.

I wouldn't say that. Crack whores get something in return.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Not according to the press conference when Gibbs retired. When asked if it's time to get a general manager, and change up the player-personnel department, Snyder said, "I'm a firm believer, if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Dan Snyder doesn't think anything is wrong with the way this franchise is run.

At the time we had just come off of playoff seasons in 2 of the prior 3 seasons. We've now lost 10 of the last 13 and lost to a team that hadn't won a game in 20 months. Can't see how that's the same thing.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

At the time we had just come off of playoff seasons in 2 of the prior 3 seasons. We've now lost 10 of the last 13 and lost to a team that hadn't won a game in 20 months. Can't see how that's the same thing.

The only reason we had those two playoff appearances was due to Joe Jackson Gibbs.

As the two-man team running this organization, Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato have exactly three winning seasons in ten years. Can't see how anyone can see this as anything else but broken...

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Not according to the press conference when Gibbs retired. When asked if it's time to get a general manager, and change up the player-personnel department, Snyder said, "I'm a firm believer, if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Dan Snyder doesn't think anything is wrong with the way this franchise is run.

Yeah I agree...I know ffor a fact that Snyder won't recall that statement if presented with it.

He's a guy with a PR staff and a complete lack of sincerity. It's just a good thing to say at the time for him. He doesn't really believe that.

You're right...this thing is really broken and Snyder is the one who broke it. He won't fix this though. Good call.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Yeah I agree...I know ffor a fact that Snyder won't recall that statement if presented with it.

He's a guy with a PR staff and a complete lack of sincerity. It's just a good thing to say at the time for him. He doesn't really believe that.

You're right...this thing is really broken and Snyder is the one who broke it. He won't fix this though. Good call.

Well he also said that a week after we made the playoffs. I know it was 9-7 season, but we were looking pretty good at the time.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Well he also said that a week after we made the playoffs. I know it was 9-7 season, but we were looking pretty good at the time.

Yeah but that statement applies to our competitive output for this year and last.

Something is wrong and it needs to be fixed. Whether he realizes the fix is removing himself from the equasion will more than likely not be realized.