The Hangover

[Lotus]

Several people today have tried to strike up conversations beginning with words like, "Hey, your Redskins..." Even my secretary started talking about the Lions, forgetting that I am a Skins fan. I've cut them each off as politely as I could and refused to talk.

If I could wear dark glasses and escape to a solitary cave then I would. Ugh.

The horror, the horror.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Several people today have tried to strike up conversations beginning with words like, "Hey, your Redskins..." Even my secretary started talking about the Lions, forgetting that I am a Skins fan. I've cut them each off as politely as I could and refused to talk.

If I could wear dark glasses and escape to a solitary cave then I would. Ugh.

The horror, the horror.

One of my co-workers is a Dallas fan, even she does not dare try to talk to me about this embarrassment. Either she is classy or she knows better. Either way, I am not getting any crap right now.

[Trample the Elderly]

I'm sick as a dog. All of my co-workers are Cowboy fans. By the time I get back, I'll not have to talk about it.

Originally Posted by Lotus

If I could wear dark glasses and escape to a solitary cave then I would. Ugh.

The horror, the horror.

Yep,I know the feeling:frusty:

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

It's always disappointing to not be excited to watch football highlights, and this week certainly is no exception.

We are the laughing stock of the league right now, and the future does not look bright. I'm normally a raging optimist on this site, but this week, it seems insane to think anything but negativity.

I vowed last year to never pay for another Redskins game again, and I still hold true to this. I refuse to give Dan Snyder my money for the product he is selling, and the way he is conducting this organization. I feel like such a cliche Redskins fan, but I don't know what else to do.

Fedex is a bitch to get to, the prices are outrageous, its a bigger bitch to leave, and chances are your going to see an abysmal performance. I paid 100$ last year for nose bleeds to the Pittsburgh game, and as terrible towels hit me in the face from either side I still stayed strong with my support for this team. I really feel we were the team that deserved to be blacked out this week...

Hockey season starts soon, and I'm more than happy to give my money towards Teddy's Capitals. It's an easy metro ride to get to, you can scalp a decent ticket for 40 bucks, and pre & post game is a breeze at one of the many bars Chinatown has to offer.

Sometimes it takes stumbling around after a night of drinking to reach an epiphany, especially one that is right in front of your eyes. I'll still be a Redskins fan for life, but this season is especially painful... so for the rest of this season, I'll be investing both financially and emotionally in DC's only team that competes every year. Lets go Caps baby!

oh... and the Wiz kids might be putting up a squad as well.

Rock the Red, no doubt. I wonder how much of the fan discontentment actually reaches Snyder and, more importantly, how much of it does he actually take to heart. Obvisously he can't take every little criticism to heart, you can't run an organization that way. I just hope he's listening.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Rock the Red, no doubt. I wonder how much of the fan discontentment actually reaches Snyder and, more importantly, how much of it does he actually take to heart. Obvisously he can't take every little criticism to heart, you can't run an organization that way. I just hope he's listening.

Well he's been a fan all his life as well so I'm sure he's aware. And, like I've said in the past, I think his biggest weakness has been failure to separate the fan from the owner. The fan can act like a dimwit, the owner cannot.

But anyway, he has to sort of keep a level head about I'm sure, because as a lifelong DC area resident and Skins fan he must know that people will jump off a bridge after a Redskins off-sides before they give a damn about any of the other teams in the area. It goes Redskins....Redskins....Redskins....Redskins...and then every other pro team in the DC area as far as fans' passions

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well he's been a fan all his life as well so I'm sure he's aware. And, like I've said in the past, I think his biggest weakness has been failure to separate the fan from the owner. The fan can act like a dimwit, the owner cannot.

But anyway, he has to sort of keep a level head about I'm sure, because as a lifelong DC area resident and Skins fan he must know that people will jump off a bridge after a Redskins off-sides before they give a damn about any of the other teams in the area. It goes Redskins....Redskins....Redskins....Redskins...and then every other pro team in the DC area as far as fans' passions

Yep, you're right. People who are visiting usually ask me about the Nats and I typically respond this a Redskins town. It's not much of basketball town, certainly not baseball, and recently hockey has been making a comeback. But no sports franchise matches the passion the Skins generate. Not even close.

I think Snyder's next move, whatever and whenver that may be, has to be extremely calculated and not self serving. Not that the others were, but he has to be perceived to be getting the less benefit out of the deal. His next selection for head coach must be allowed to bring in his own folks, and I would imagine have some control over personnel decisions. I know that has been a sticky issue with him in the past, but I don't think we'll get the type of coach we really need here unless that's a part of the package.

It's interesting how we're discussing Jim Zorn like he's a dead man walking. Another good movie, by the way

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I vowed last year to never pay for another Redskins game again, and I still hold true to this. I refuse to give Dan Snyder my money for the product he is selling, and the way he is conducting this organization. I feel like such a cliche Redskins fan, but I don't know what else to do.

snyder's already been paid for whatever seat you'd get but I hear you

Hockey season starts soon, and I'm more than happy to give my money towards Teddy's Capitals. It's an easy metro ride to get to, you can scalp a decent ticket for 40 bucks, and pre & post game is a breeze at one of the many bars Chinatown has to offer.

Sometimes it takes stumbling around after a night of drinking to reach an epiphany, especially one that is right in front of your eyes. I'll still be a Redskins fan for life, but this season is especially painful... so for the rest of this season, I'll be investing both financially and emotionally in DC's only team that competes every year. Lets go Caps baby!

Just really started watching hockey last year, bought an Ovechkin jersey this weekend, they come to town here on the 12th of October, should be a good game, tough one though

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

snyder's already been paid for whatever seat you'd get but I hear you

Yeah... I guess I'm just frustrated. I'm not trying to go all poetic justice on Dan Snyder. I just really hate losing. I'm not going to pay for another game, because it literally is not worth it to me. I don't care that much how he runs the organization, but I'd prefer to see him invest a little more on being less of an asshole. Meddle less with the team, go to the games, and enjoy yourself.

For me, It's too much money, and we suck. It sucks sucking.

Capitals games are cheap, and we're awesome.

Rant off.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Yeah... I guess I'm just frustrated. I'm not trying to go all poetic justice on Dan Snyder. I just really hate losing. I'm not going to pay for another game, because it literally is not worth it to me. I don't care that much how he runs the organization, but I'd prefer to see him invest a little more on being less of an asshole. Meddle less with the team, go to the games, and enjoy yourself.

For me, It's too much money, and we suck. It sucks sucking.

Capitals games are cheap, and we're awesome.

Rant off.

You're telling me man... I bought a 120 dollar ticket, beer and liquor, a new jersey and hat, etc all because of this game

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

My favorite scene from The Hangover is when the guys are asleep in their Vegas hotel suite following a night of debauchery. The room was a complete shambles, a white chicken was wondering about, a baby was found in the closet, and when one of them goes to relieve himself, much to his surprise, he finds a roaring tiger in the bathroom.

Through the first three games of the season the Washington Redskins have resembled the trailer for The Hangover. Much like the comedy the Redskins started out rather normally, but have since devolved into a series of unexplained, bizarre, and head scratching events that are all interconnected. To be clear, it's not the Redskins record that's so disconcerting and bothersome. Let's face it, NFL teams start out 1-2 all the time, recover and later find themselves in the hunt for a playoff bid. In fact, it could still happen to the Redskins. But following the performances over the past two weeks, such a scenerio seems less and less likely with each game that passes. This team continues to be plagued by penalties by veterans who should know better, poor tackling, bad clock management, and of late, a once stout defense giving up long and time consuming drives to offenses that usually struggle. These mental errors, accumulated little by little, will drain even the most talented and well intentioned team.

Last week I wrote about the Redskins being close. Close to being a better than average football team. Quite frankly, close to being a playoff contender. It seemed reasonable to me that a team that last year finished 8-8, returned most of it's starters, and a head coach with another year under his belt didn't need to make any major adjustments. On top of that the team upgraded in a few areas, including All-Pro DT Albert Haynesworth. While the talent is still there, the teams organizational structure, long term strategy, and lack of motivation displayed yesterday have even left the franchise's most ardent defenders with their hands in the air.

Yesterday's lost to the Detroit Lions has turned into one big hangover for Redskins nation, except no one's laughing. The proverbial shit officially hit the fan yesterday. This wasn't just another loss to another subpar opponent. This was their tiger in the bathroom. Or in the Redskins case, the Lions.

Unfortunately, that 8-8 record looks more and more misleading, although it probably already had some glaring signs of problems. Since our 4-1 start last year, we're 5-9, with the 5 wins coming against the Browns (who finished 4-12 and who we beat 14-11), the Lions (who finished 0-16 and who we beat by a touchdown), the Seahawks (who finished 4-12 and who we beat by a field goal), the Eagles, and, this year, the Rams. During that same stretch, we lost to last year's Rams (who finished 2-14) and Bengals (who finished 4-11-1). The win against the Eagles, at least the second one last year (if not possibly the first as well) looks to be the true anomaly.

I also thought that this year's crew could only improve its record from last year, but I realize more and more that last year's 8 wins didn't reflect that actual talent level of the team.

[SmootSmack]

Sometimes as a Redskins fan, I feel a lone wolf with my own wolfpack. But when I opened 12th Man's latest thread, I knew I had found another member of my wolfpack, where there was one of us there was now two. And then I read SGG's and 53Fan's posts and I thought, could it be? And yes, now I know that there are four members of this wolfpack.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sometimes as a Redskins fan, I feel a lone wolf with my own wolfpack. But when I opened 12th Man's latest thread, I knew I had found another member of my wolfpack, where there was one of us there was now two. And then I read SGG's and 53Fan's posts and I thought, could it be? And yes, now I know that there are four members of this wolfpack.

Damn man. That kinda got to me. Tell me a joke. Quick.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sometimes as a Redskins fan, I feel a lone wolf with my own wolfpack. But when I opened 12th Man's latest thread, I knew I had found another member of my wolfpack, where there was one of us there was now two. And then I read SGG's and 53Fan's posts and I thought, could it be? And yes, now I know that there are four members of this wolfpack.

How about that ride in? I guess that's why they call it Sin City.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

So did the Lions equal Mr. Chow? Locked up in the trunk and just emerged to wreck shop?