Moving on, how do you think the Skins perform vs. bucs

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I think we move the ball up and down the field inside the 20's all day long and JC has great stats but few scores until 5min left into the game. We loose 10 to 14. We then have another week like the last two and some feel good with JC play and blames the D and coaching.

Let's get off the QB and focus on some other issues. #1 how do you see the defense playing, and #2 will we be able to run the ball at all?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's get off the QB and focus on some other issues. #1 how do you see the defense playing, and #2 will we be able to run the ball at all?

I think the D will play with a chip on their shoulder and go after TD. Last week Zorn started the game passing but I'd like to see them establish the run first then work down field.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I think we move the ball up and down the field inside the 20's all day long and JC has great stats but few scores until 5min left into the game. We loose 10 to 14. We then have another week like the last two and some feel good with JC play and blames the D and coaching.

Actually I ment to end by saying JK but had a call and hit enter by accident.
Skins 28
TB 10

[mredskins]

I feel like we win this one don't know why but I just feel it. 21-17 skins.

[SmootSmack]

The team has to come out determined like the last two games were simply a fluke (whether or not they weren't).

At the end of the day, we're one win away from .500 (which is probably one less win than most thought we would have after the first quarter of the season) so it's really important for the players and coaches to focus on that and not come out dejected.

[MTK]

Just heard Andre Carter on Moving the Chains:

-He seemed to think guys are just trying to do too much, guys need to relax and have fun

-No problems with the schemes, players need to go out there and execute what is called

-Business as usual this week, preparing hard for the Bucs, last week is behind them

-On losing to the Lions, they were the better team that day

-Zorn has not lost the locker room. Too early in the season, still 13 games to go, a win this week and they're 2-2. The world is not ending.

[Spence]

The Redskins SHOULD win this game, but they SHOULD have won the last game, too. I'll take the Skins 13-9.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just heard Andre Carter on Moving the Chains:

-He seemed to think guys are just trying to do too much, guys need to relax and have fun

-No problems with the schemes, players need to go out there and execute what is called
-Business as usual this week, preparing hard for the Bucs, last week is behind them

-On losing to the Lions, they were the better team that day

-Zorn has not lost the locker room. Too early in the season, still 13 games to go, a win this week and they're 2-2. The world is not ending.

The pressure just isn't there, and sometimes I think Blache could care less.

Larry Weisman, online reporter for Redskins.com had a good point the other day, but it's probably obvious to most: The Lions went with Max Protect the other day, and had seven blockers in for most of the game, while we rushed just four. That just won't get the job done, and I don't care how good your corners are -- (and ours aren't very good right now) -- when you give a QB all day to throw, he's going to connect more often than not.

We should have harassed Stafford all day long.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The pressure just isn't there, and sometimes I think Blache could care less.

Larry Weisman, online reporter for Redskins.com had a good point the other day, but it's probably obvious to most: The Lions went with Max Protect the other day, and had seven blockers in for most of the game, while we rushed just four. That just won't get the job done, and I don't care how good your corners are -- (and ours aren't very good right now) -- when you give a QB all day to throw, he's going to connect more often than not.

We should have harassed Stafford all day long.

But when someone goes max protect, you'd assume we'd have more DBs than they do WRs to throw the ball to.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The pressure just isn't there, and sometimes I think Blache could care less.

Larry Weisman, online reporter for Redskins.com had a good point the other day, but it's probably obvious to most: The Lions went with Max Protect the other day, and had seven blockers in for most of the game, while we rushed just four. That just won't get the job done, and I don't care how good your corners are -- (and ours aren't very good right now) -- when you give a QB all day to throw, he's going to connect more often than not.

We should have harassed Stafford all day long.

Kind of like TMC said, the only time it makes sense to blitz into a max protect is when you are trying to take advantage of a specific match-up. I'm pretty sure Blache isn't smart enough to find one.

The proper way to defend the max protect is to go the other way and drop into 8 man coverage and force the quarterback to get impatient and throw ill-advised interceptions because he can't find anyone open. But by rushing four the whole game and giving Stafford only two to three different coverages to look at, he basically kept giving him one on one matchups and a clean pocket to throw from. The only way you can win that is if you win your one on ones (Rogers v. Bryant Johnson, and Smoot v. whoever). Rogers performed badly and Smoot just sucks.

But a 3 man rush with 6 guys in intermediate/deep coverage would have been the best way to go against the max protect, IMO. I don't understand: Blache figured this out against Flacco last year, and they used an identical scheme. Perhaps the difference was the Rogers won 90% of his matchups against Mason last year and only 30% of his matchups against Bryant Johnson. If that's the big difference, well, Blache needs to do better, but it's hardly all his fault.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Kind of like TMC said, the only time it makes sense to blitz into a max protect is when you are trying to take advantage of a specific match-up. I'm pretty sure Blache isn't smart enough to find one.

The proper way to defend the max protect is to go the other way and drop into 8 man coverage and force the quarterback to get impatient and throw ill-advised interceptions because he can't find anyone open. But by rushing four the whole game and giving Stafford only two to three different coverages to look at, he basically kept giving him one on one matchups and a clean pocket to throw from. The only way you can win that is if you win your one on ones (Rogers v. Bryant Johnson, and Smoot v. whoever). Rogers performed badly and Smoot just sucks.

But a 3 man rush with 6 guys in intermediate/deep coverage would have been the best way to go against the max protect, IMO. I don't understand: Blache figured this out against Flacco last year, and they used an identical scheme. Perhaps the difference was the Rogers won 90% of his matchups against Mason last year and only 30% of his matchups against Bryant Johnson. If that's the big difference, well, Blache needs to do better, but it's hardly all his fault.

I'd say that whatever the Vikes and Saints did to force 5 INTs the first 2 games would have been the way to go. Give Stafford some credit though. Even when we did put some pressure on him, he was able to move around in the pocket or scramble out of the pocket to buy more time. But then again, our DEs blow. They can't run down anyone.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Tampa's D is worse than ours. They are 31st is rush yds/gm at 187. I believe our run game will put up over 120 yds. on them. I think Zorn will adjust and go to a more straight ahead run game. I also believe the RZ issues will be corrected against a bad Tampa D.

Defensively Johnson can move and against mobile QBs we have historically had some trouble. I don't think Blache will alter his scheme very much to keep the young QB off balance. Given time he will gain confidence and that's dangerous. Tampa will move the ball, but Johnson's inexperience and making a mistake somewhere will be the difference.

Skins 30
Bucs 23

[mooby]

I'd like to say I think the Skins will win this game easily given I still think we have a pretty good roster and the Bucs are horrible and are giving us a second year qb who's never started (aka they should be ripe for the picking), but then again I thought the Skins would come out inspired to prove themselves against the Lions and look what happened.

Instead I'll just say I hope losing to the Lions was the thing they needed to change their state of mind and hopefully right the ship, and hopefully we'll see the Redskins team we know they are capable of being. If not, well then it's gonna be another long week and we'll be one week/step closer to going insane.

[skins89moss]

I think Greg Blache will call a more attacking style defense and we will see Orakpo rushing the passer more. I also hope to see Chris Wilson on the field more on pass rushing downs. We need a more athletic DT next to AH. Phillip Daniels provides no rush off the edge, do to his older age and lack of mobility. Like to see Jarmon or Wilson getting after the QB in rushing situations. The Redskins will break the Red Zone slump and Alridge will get some touches this game.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I think Greg Blache will call a more attacking style defense and we will see Orakpo rushing the passer more. I also hope to see Chris Wilson on the field more on pass rushing downs. We need a more athletic DT next to AH. Phillip Daniels provides no rush off the edge, do to his older age and lack of mobility. Like to see Jarmon or Wilson getting after the QB in rushing situations. The Redskins will break the Red Zone slump and Alridge will get some touches this game.

I liked that we've been seeing quite a bit of Jarmon out there. Have you noticed that we're getting gashed up the gut rather than on the edges? I think our ends are playing well. I get worried that since we allow AH to freelance, that he might miss someone coming up the middle.