What If...We Win?

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You make good points as far as PPG and the defense, but that doesn't excuse their inability to get off the field on 3rd downs, and our sack/INT total is pacing to look just as terrible as last year's unit. I think that's got to fall at Blache's feet.

IMO he should have been fired as soon as he said sacks are "overrated." Convenient spin by a coordinator who can't buy a sack. The best defenses in the league are the ones that relentlessly pressure the QB, Greg.

Exactly. We are last in the NFL in 3rd down defense. LAST

[budw38]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You make good points as far as PPG and the defense, but that doesn't excuse their inability to get off the field on 3rd downs, and our sack/INT total is pacing to look just as terrible as last year's unit. I think that's got to fall at Blache's feet.

IMO he should have been fired as soon as he said sacks are "overrated." Convenient spin by a coordinator who can't buy a sack. The best defenses in the league are the ones that relentlessly pressure the QB, Greg.

Sacks , we don't need no stinking sacks . I wish your Gators would have had that belief going into the NCAA Champ. Game with OSU . That made me question our D Cord. ,,, we don't need / care about sacks ?

[Trample the Elderly]

It's just like my drill instructor used to say to me, "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all be fat mother effers". Show me the money! No excuses.

[KI Skins Fan]

I think Zorn needs to win 10 games and look good doing it to survive. He may even need to make the playoffs but if I were DS I'd have to think long and hard before I fired a coach who won double digit games. I don't think just scraping over the bar at 9-7 will save Zorn because there will be too many highly qualified HC candidates available for DS to settle for a mediocre coach.



That would require beating some very good teams

[NYCskinfan82]

Based on DS i think we go 10-6 win a playoff game JZ stays & we sign JC to a nice contract.

[12thMan]

Trust me, 9-7 and Zorn and Blache are out of here. I think 9-7 and a first round playoff berth and they're gone.

A second round playoff appearance, Hunter Smith knocking out the lights of Jerry's Jone's screen per Zorn, Zorn on his knees begging Danny to keep his job, run a few fire drills, 50 push-ups, 100 sit ups and Danny might let him stay.

[Chico23231]

If Zorn makes the playoffs, Ill be happy and wont complain, but Im am still in favor of firing Vinny and hiring a real GM regardless. I would def but 4 Zorn and JC staying if we do make the playoffs.

[SC Skins Fan]

At this point and with this schedule 9-7 would represent an epic turnaround. The combined records of the next three opponents is 0-9 so really you need to get those wins, but it is very unlikely they go 3-0. Hopefully you can beat Tampa Bay and Kansas City, legitimately bad teams, at home. I don't see the Skins going into the Carolina, facing a desperate team who is coming off a bye week, and stealing a victory. So that puts you, best case, 3-3 heading into the varsity portion of the schedule. If Zorn can come up with 6 wins against the NFC East, New Orleans, @ Atlanta, and @ San Diego he really would be doing something. That is eight of the games, he also gets to face Denver at home (who looks improved on defense, if not quite as good as 3-0 would suggest), and a terrible Oakland team on the road. Even the Oakland game will be tough because it is a West Coast trip. If you come out of that 9-7, after the way they looked against St. Louis and Detroit, then Zorn would really have done something good. It seems pretty hard to imagine right now. If they play at the level they have so far you are looking at something like 6-10 or worse.

Frankly we will know a lot more after this week. If you lose to Tampa than you have now dropped 2 conference games to two of the worst teams in the conference. Forget playoffs at that point because you won't be winning any tiebreakers. Then it just becomes a bunch of guys playing for their jobs and it will get even uglier.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

If Zorn can come up with 6 wins against the NFC East, .

How can we sweep the division? We already lost to the Giants.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

How can we sweep the division? We already lost to the Giants.

Well clearly, we would win the last 5 and beat the Giants in the NFC Championship game. I would go further and say we could win 7 games as we will beat Dallas 3 times, including the divisional games. Geez how could you not see that.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Wow. This is a tough question. I don't know what keeo Zorn here other than a complete turn around before the bye week. If we limp into the bye at 2-5 I think Zorn may be fired at that point. Of course, that being said I don't think 9-7 and missing the playoffs will keep him his job either. 9-7 isn't going to be good enough in the NFC this year to make the playoffs. 10-6 or better in the NFC to get the Wildcard.

Even then Zorn is going to need to fight to get to 10-6 and win a playoff game. Then he gets to stay. Right now that is a very daunting task for the HC.

[44Deezel]

If they continue to play like shit but eventually turn the corner and finish strong (a la Marty), I think Snyder might be inclined to give Zorn another season and even sign Campbell to a long term deal. Maybe the light bulb will go off in Zorn's head sometime. He's still pretty much a rookie play caller after all.

But in all likelihood, we will have a new coach, QB and hopefully GM next year.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know we've all pretty much written off the season and are ready to start talking about whether we'll be introducing Cowher or Shanahan in 2010...but what if things start to click?

What if suddenly we start winning games?

What then? Do we give Zorn another year?

I guess basically my question is what keeps Zorn here in 2010

If we suddenly start winning games this will be a more peaceful place on Sunday nights, and throughout the coming week.

Depending on the success we have going foreward will determine whether Zorn get's more time. If the team snaps out of it's funk and begins to win games then Zorn should be safe in 2010 and beyond.

The man needs more time with all the parts neccessary to produce a winning team . Some say he does not need the tools neccessary to win, in other words, he should be able to make bricks out of straw.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know we've all pretty much written off the season and are ready to start talking about whether we'll be introducing Cowher or Shanahan in 2010...but what if things start to click?

What if suddenly we start winning games?

What then? Do we give Zorn another year?

I guess basically my question is what keeps Zorn here in 2010

If that happens I think we keep Zorn. If this offense takes off and starts becoming what we're hoping it could be, we have to keep him. We have'nt had an explosive, or really good, offense in a very long time. I think that is what was really instrumental in bringing him here and I think Danny would really love to see more of a WR friendly offense than what we've had in the past. I wouldn't fire any coach who was responsible for "curing" the offensive woes we've had for so long. If the "D" doesn't improve, I think Blache will, and should be, held accountable for that and will be replaced. The sooner the better if you ask me. If the offense can stop making stupid mistakes and score points, and the defense can do what we expected by the moves we've made, sacks-turnovers, get off the field on 3rd down, we're a very competitive team. Keep improving and finish strong and all is forgiven.

[firstdown]

Well we started off last year winning games so I don't see why we could not go on another one. In sports its funny how one play, game, or series of the two and things go from bad to good. I for one will not write off a season after 3 games and 13 more to play.