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Old 10-01-2009, 01:25 PM   #1
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You mean like the Great Trent Dilfer and Rex Grossman lead their teams ( Ravens/Bears) to the SuperBowl.
For every Trent Dilfer Scenario (No offense, great D), there is a Kurt Warner (No Defense, great O), especially in this day and age. For Christ's sake, Elway almost did it multiple times with the Orange Broncos.

My philosophy is that neither the defense nor the offense can win you a championship outright. They need the support of each other. We have an above average defense and an under average offense. The least we can do if we aren't scoring points is to dominate time of possession. In our two losses we haven't in our one win we have.

The least JC and the offense could do is get a few first downs CONSISTENTLY through the game. What loses games are 3 and outs and such. It destroys the offenses confidence while at the same time sucking the energy out of the defense towards the ends of games. That is why JC is as integral to the D's performance in close games as he is to the O's. Next time he is moving the ball well in against a prevent D when we are behind, just remember that if our D gives up a score or can't stop their O on the next possession, it's not all their fault. At some point in that game JC and the O probably let us down by not holding on the ball for a while.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:45 PM   #2
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The least JC and the offense could do is get a few first downs CONSISTENTLY through the game. What loses games are 3 and outs and such. It destroys the offenses confidence while at the same time sucking the energy out of the defense towards the ends of games. That is why JC is as integral to the D's performance in close games as he is to the O's. Next time he is moving the ball well in against a prevent D when we are behind, just remember that if our D gives up a score or can't stop their O on the next possession, it's not all their fault. At some point in that game JC and the O probably let us down by not holding on the ball for a while.
It's funny that you bring that up because THAT is undoubtedly on the whole offense. There were 2 consecutive possessions last week that were 3 & outs because, on 3rd down Moss and then Cooley ran their routes a yard short of the sticks. That's unacceptable! A QB can't be expected to know if a guy is running his route at 9 or 10 yards (I believe one was like 12 or 13 and the other was around 8 (not sure)). Each Moss and Cooley were about a yard short because they didn't get deep enough on their routes. All Jason can do is deliver the football those 2 possessions ended because the receivers made mistakes.

Those two drives would have at least allowed the D more rest, as you said or, as unlikely as it sounds with this offense, they could have turned into points.
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For every Trent Dilfer Scenario (No offense, great D), there is a Kurt Warner (No Defense, great O), especially in this day and age. For Christ's sake, Elway almost did it multiple times with the Orange Broncos..
Give me another example besides Kurt Warner? Elways didn't have a defense? Not to mention T Davis was tearing up the league. But don't get me wrong. Elway is one of the greatest of all times. But are you really saying that they had no defense?

Kurt warner is the exception to the rule. But seriously name a team that won a Superbowl, besides the Rams, without having a defense.

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Old 10-02-2009, 12:53 AM   #4
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For every Trent Dilfer Scenario (No offense, great D), there is a Kurt Warner (No Defense, great O), especially in this day and age. For Christ's sake, Elway almost did it multiple times with the Orange Broncos.

My philosophy is that neither the defense nor the offense can win you a championship outright. They need the support of each other. We have an above average defense and an under average offense. The least we can do if we aren't scoring points is to dominate time of possession. In our two losses we haven't in our one win we have.

The least JC and the offense could do is get a few first downs CONSISTENTLY through the game. What loses games are 3 and outs and such. It destroys the offenses confidence while at the same time sucking the energy out of the defense towards the ends of games. That is why JC is as integral to the D's performance in close games as he is to the O's. Next time he is moving the ball well in against a prevent D when we are behind, just remember that if our D gives up a score or can't stop their O on the next possession, it's not all their fault. At some point in that game JC and the O probably let us down by not holding on the ball for a while.
Warner though, was the quarterback of a 9-7 team, and his defense performed (on the average) better than the Redskins defense (on the small sample average) has this year. Could we be a 9-7 team behind Campbell, good special teams, and nothing else? Absolutely. Is that a ticket to the super bowl? No more than the Cardinals were last year when they were being blown out by the Patriots. In the NFC East, that gets you to the playoffs only about half the time.
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Warner though, was the quarterback of a 9-7 team, and his defense performed (on the average) better than the Redskins defense (on the small sample average) has this year. Could we be a 9-7 team behind Campbell, good special teams, and nothing else? Absolutely. Is that a ticket to the super bowl? No more than the Cardinals were last year when they were being blown out by the Patriots. In the NFC East, that gets you to the playoffs only about half the time.
I totally agree. If we can get our running game going and our D to get better on 3rd down. We will be much improved. But time will only tell.

Yeah and the thing about the Arizona is they stepped up on defense during the playoff stretch and Fitz was on FIRE!!
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