Campbell's numbers dont lie

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I honestly just want to see what Todd Collins can bring to the table, but I'll admit we should stick with JC for now.

I was ready to call for Collins in the second half, but JC made some plays. Honestly, I don't think Collins brings much though.

[SC Skins Fan]

Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010.

Has he beaten any ranked team this year? I actually saw a report on him when he was in high school. Very impressive kid. He might be our best bet with the injury to Bradford who I thought was the most NFl eady QB. But having a injury to your throwing shoulder is not a good thing. i.e., Chad Pennington

Tebow and McCoy are good because of their athleticsm. But they wont be able to run like they do in college. So that will take away some of their affectiveness.

So Clausen might be the best bet. But lets see how he does against USC. They have lost only one game and still aren't ranked int he BCS top 25. Says a lot. Need to see him in a big game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010.

As someone who watches Jimmy Clausen play every single week, I would say that he struggles with everything Jason Campbell does and then some. He's simply not the prospect Brady Quinn was coming out of the Weis system, and considering that hasn't gone well to this point, I'm not sure Clausen has pro potential.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

As someone who watches Jimmy Clausen play every single week, I would say that he struggles with everything Jason Campbell does and then some. He's simply not the prospect Brady Quinn was coming out of the Weis system, and considering that hasn't gone well to this point, I'm not sure Clausen has pro potential.

Great point and they aren't playing anyone. I am really not impressed with any of the QBs in the draft next year. Like I said I think DS and Vinny saw this. That's why they were going so hard after Cutler and Sanchez!!!

Bradford should have came out last year. We might have picked him up...But that's spilled milk. Do we still take a chance with him? I am iffy on that. Its not looking good in Free Agency or in the draft. We need a sure shot. If not he will get run out of town quick. But we also need a RB too and OLs. We are in a pickle and having a uncapped season may not even matter -- when it comes to gettin ga QB anyway. Because no one is out there. Should have kept Chase. Hope Colt learns something while he is on IR.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

As someone who watches Jimmy Clausen play every single week, I would say that he struggles with everything Jason Campbell does and then some. He's simply not the prospect Brady Quinn was coming out of the Weis system, and considering that hasn't gone well to this point, I'm not sure Clausen has pro potential.

I haven't watched Claussen play. That is frustrated speculation. But someone other than Jason Campbell will be QB next year. I know you really like the guy, but he is not getting a clear picture back there and I do not think he has all year. Holds the ball too long, no timing or rhythm in his game. You can blame Zorn for it if you like, I am fine with that explanation, but he is not the future at QB for this franchise. The numbers today just support what has been a problem all year. And this is coming from someone who was a big time Campbell fan for a long time.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

I haven't watched Claussen play. That is frustrated speculation. But someone other than Jason Campbell will be QB next year. I know you really like the guy, but he is not getting a clear picture back there and I do not think he has all year. Holds the ball too long, no timing or rhythm in his game. You can blame Zorn for it if you like, I am fine with that explanation, but he is not the future at QB for this franchise. The numbers today just support what has been a problem all year. And this is coming from someone who was a big time Campbell fan for a long time.

Campbell played decent the first few games. So it shouldn't be a suprise that he had a bad game. have been in JC's corner also. But think we should get someone next year and maybe keep Campbell as a backup since it is a uncapped season. Just dont see any prospects worth a damn out there. NO any thoroughbreds anyway.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

I haven't watched Claussen play. That is frustrated speculation. But someone other than Jason Campbell will be QB next year. I know you really like the guy, but he is not getting a clear picture back there and I do not think he has all year. Holds the ball too long, no timing or rhythm in his game. You can blame Zorn for it if you like, I am fine with that explanation, but he is not the future at QB for this franchise. The numbers today just support what has been a problem all year. And this is coming from someone who was a big time Campbell fan for a long time.

Well, I have legitimate fears at this point that the Redskins messed up his development. And if that's indeed the case, then you're absolutely right, we can't have that back.

But at this point, it's way too early to just conclude that you're right. 5 TD's vs. 5 INTs to this point, and if that becomes 11:5 in the next two games, then no one remembers this one. If it becomes 6:8, then you have a problem at the quarterback position.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, I have legitimate fears at this point that the Redskins messed up his development. And if that's indeed the case, then you're absolutely right, we can't have that back.

But at this point, it's way too early to just conclude that you're right. 5 TD's vs. 5 INTs to this point, and if that becomes 11:5 in the next two games, then no one remembers this one. If it becomes 6:8, then you have a problem at the quarterback position.

I think we did jack JC up. Between the different systems. Him not having reliable receivers or a o-line. This year no consistent run game. Joe Gibbs babying him. Joe Gibbs was stuck in a hard place though. We even ran him out of town. So I think let's keep JC as a game manager instead of lettign him sling it like Denver did with Cutler. The only way you learn is from mistakes and Gibbs protected Campbell too much. That's why he sometimes make rookie mistakes. I thin this situation would have been horrible for any QB to be honest. Nothing has been consitent or QB friendly here. I just hope JC plearns from his mistakes. But if all else fail we should keep him as a backup QB since we have a uncapped season next year..that is if his agent isn't stupid and try to ask for more than what he is worth. I truly dont see may options for free agent/college QBs out there though.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

I haven't watched Claussen play. That is frustrated speculation. But someone other than Jason Campbell will be QB next year. I know you really like the guy, but he is not getting a clear picture back there and I do not think he has all year. Holds the ball too long, no timing or rhythm in his game. You can blame Zorn for it if you like, I am fine with that explanation, but he is not the future at QB for this franchise. The numbers today just support what has been a problem all year. And this is coming from someone who was a big time Campbell fan for a long time.

He is what he is. I don't blame the INT on the pass to Kelly on him, and was stoked that he finally threw that pass and actually put in a place that the receiver at least had a chance to make a play.

But everything else is on him. I was sitting in a lower level suite behind the end zone and you could see guys open downfield all day. The pass to Cooley that got broken up at the 5 was throw WAY TOO LATE. Cooley was wide open for about 10 yards, but Campbell threw it too late and with too much air under it. Very frustrating to watch him miss play after play. I agree that he won't be our starter next year or anyone's for that matter.