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Old 10-04-2009, 09:36 PM   #1
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So you're completely disregarding the 10 play drive ending with the Cooley TD, right?
You mean this drive?

1-10-WAS 31 (8:56) 26-C.Portis left end pushed ob at WAS 39 for 8 yards (51-B.Ruud).

2-2-WAS 39 (8:32) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 47-C.Cooley to TB 44 for 17 yards (54-G.Hayes). Tight end screen. Hmm, wonder if Campbell's struggles led the team to change the playcalling to protect their QB. No need to read the defense, pass is preset.

1-10-TB 44 (7:54) 26-C.Portis up the middle to TB 42 for 2 yards (90-G.Adams).

2-8-TB 42 (7:20) 26-C.Portis up the middle to TB 40 for 2 yards (96-T.Crowder).

3-6-TB 40 (6:37) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 46-L.Betts to TB 36 for 4 yards (97-J.Wilkerson, 51-B.Ruud). Check down to Ladell Betts. Picked up the first down here, but you still are not convincing me that he is a great quarterback. He flushed himself here too if I remember, so again no timing or rhythm.

Timeout #1 by WAS at 06:10.

4-2-TB 36 (6:10) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 47-C.Cooley to TB 24 for 12 yards (25-A.Talib). Nice play to get open by Cooley. Again Campbell had to float right, but it did give Cooley a chance to slide to the open space.

1-10-TB 24 (5:32) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 47-C.Cooley (20-R.Barber).

2-10-TB 24 (5:27) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 86-F.Davis to TB 25 for -1 yards (58-Q.Black). Another tight end screen. I have trouble believing the play calling was not trying to compensate for Campbell's issues processing information. And I am sick of Zorn too, so it is not like I am trying to defend that guy either.

3-11-TB 25 (4:47) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell scrambles right end to TB 12 for 13 yards (58-Q.Black). QB's that don't get a clear picture often scramble. Case in point.

1-10-TB 12 (4:02) PENALTY on WAS-89-S.Moss, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at TB 12 - No Play.

1-15-TB 17 (3:38) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass deep middle to 47-C.Cooley for 17 yards, TOUCHDOWN. I can't remember precisely how this play developed, but I am fairly sure that it was not a play that Campbell made on rhythm. I think he flushed left before he made the throw. Again, he has trouble diagnosing defenses and anticipating routes. Here again, I am willing to bet that when I watch again he was able to throw to an open receiver, but unable to anticipate that player coming open.

Did you see him make any quick decisions and process information quickly all day? I haven't rewatched yet, but I don't remember seeing it. You're clearly content to go down with the HMS Campbell, nothing that happens will change your opinion, but I've seen enough.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:40 PM   #2
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You mean this drive?

1-10-WAS 31 (8:56) 26-C.Portis left end pushed ob at WAS 39 for 8 yards (51-B.Ruud).

2-2-WAS 39 (8:32) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 47-C.Cooley to TB 44 for 17 yards (54-G.Hayes). Tight end screen. Hmm, wonder if Campbell's struggles led the team to change the playcalling to protect their QB. No need to read the defense, pass is preset.

1-10-TB 44 (7:54) 26-C.Portis up the middle to TB 42 for 2 yards (90-G.Adams).

2-8-TB 42 (7:20) 26-C.Portis up the middle to TB 40 for 2 yards (96-T.Crowder).

3-6-TB 40 (6:37) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 46-L.Betts to TB 36 for 4 yards (97-J.Wilkerson, 51-B.Ruud). Check down to Ladell Betts. Picked up the first down here, but you still are not convincing me that he is a great quarterback. He flushed himself here too if I remember, so again no timing or rhythm.

Timeout #1 by WAS at 06:10.

4-2-TB 36 (6:10) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 47-C.Cooley to TB 24 for 12 yards (25-A.Talib). Nice play to get open by Cooley. Again Campbell had to float right, but it did give Cooley a chance to slide to the open space.

1-10-TB 24 (5:32) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 47-C.Cooley (20-R.Barber).

2-10-TB 24 (5:27) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 86-F.Davis to TB 25 for -1 yards (58-Q.Black). Another tight end screen. I have trouble believing the play calling was not trying to compensate for Campbell's issues processing information. And I am sick of Zorn too, so it is not like I am trying to defend that guy either.

3-11-TB 25 (4:47) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell scrambles right end to TB 12 for 13 yards (58-Q.Black). QB's that don't get a clear picture often scramble. Case in point.

1-10-TB 12 (4:02) PENALTY on WAS-89-S.Moss, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at TB 12 - No Play.

1-15-TB 17 (3:38) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass deep middle to 47-C.Cooley for 17 yards, TOUCHDOWN. I can't remember precisely how this play developed, but I am fairly sure that it was not a play that Campbell made on rhythm. I think he flushed left before he made the throw. Again, he has trouble diagnosing defenses and anticipating routes. Here again, I am willing to bet that when I watch again he was able to throw to an open receiver, but unable to anticipate that player coming open.

Did you see him make any quick decisions and process information quickly all day? I haven't rewatched yet, but I don't remember seeing it. You're clearly content to go down with the HMS Campbell, nothing that happens will change your opinion, but I've seen enough.
Is this guy seriously using a successful drive to point out how unsuccessful we were on this drive..
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:43 PM   #3
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Is this guy seriously using a successful drive to point out how unsuccessful we were on this drive..
Gotta love those haters, I'm serious if someone hates a player, who obviously not going away any time, just stop watching. Give up, and wait until the offseason.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:44 PM   #4
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Is this guy seriously using a successful drive to point out how unsuccessful we were on a this drive..lol
It's a little ridiculous, Campbell made plays with his feet, took what the defense was giving (listen to the commentators and their comments about the way the Tampa D was playing) and threw a strike to Cooley for a TD, and Campbell still gets hammered. Really ridiculous.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:41 PM   #5
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(3:38) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass deep middle to 47-C.Cooley for 17 yards, TOUCHDOWN.[B]

This is what f'ing matters and what you are disregarding.


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I can't remember precisely how this play developed, but I am fairly sure that it was not a play that Campbell made on rhythm. I think he flushed left before he made the throw. Again, he has trouble diagnosing defenses and anticipating routes. Here again, I am willing to bet that when I watch again he was able to throw to an open receiver, but unable to anticipate that player coming open.
Great analysis there...you can't remember and you think. Good job.

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You're clearly content to go down with the HMS Campbell, nothing that happens will change your opinion, but I've seen enough.
If Campbell had not recovered, he would have been benched and I would be right here with you hating on him. To me, he came back, threw for two TDs and won the game.

I'm sure the Cowpukes wished Tony Homo could have done this today.
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You mean this drive?
1-10-TB 24 (5:32) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 47-C.Cooley (20-R.Barber).
Wait, what the hell is this? This must be a typo. A pass on 1st down? Sorry I'm not buying that.
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Did you see him make any quick decisions and process information quickly all day? I haven't rewatched yet, but I don't remember seeing it. You're clearly content to go down with the HMS Campbell, nothing that happens will change your opinion, but I've seen enough.
You've seen enough? And who do you propose we start in his place??
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You've seen enough? And who do you propose we start in his place??
Maybe he can close his eyes when the offense is on the field.

And how dare Campbell throw for two TDs! He should have folded and lost the game!
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You've seen enough? And who do you propose we start in his place??
Obviously the team will keep rolling with Campbell. That is fine. My point is that I've seen enough that I do not expect anything to change. I've also seen enough that I am going to stop knocking my head against a wall in these threads.
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Obviously the team will keep rolling with Campbell. That is fine. My point is that I've seen enough that I do not expect anything to change. I've also seen enough that I am going to stop knocking my head against a wall in these threads.
I highly doubt this. Maybe you'll get lucky and he'll actually lose a game this season (I think he did last year though).
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Obviously the team will keep rolling with Campbell. That is fine. My point is that I've seen enough that I do not expect anything to change. I've also seen enough that I am going to stop knocking my head against a wall in these threads.
Well, your line above your avatar says Todd Collins. Why is that? You really think with the way our O-line leaks that Collins would last even one game? Campbell's legs are keeping him out of the hospital right now. Collins would be dead meat. My grandmother can outrun that dude. But you are obviously advocating him as the starter. Bad choice.
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Well, your line above your avatar says Todd Collins. Why is that? You really think with the way our O-line leaks that Collins would last even one game? Campbell's legs are keeping him out of the hospital right now. Collins would be dead meat. My grandmother can outrun that dude. But you are obviously advocating him as the starter. Bad choice.
Too funny. I think she can probably outrun Phillip Rivers, I just saw him scramble at the speed of a turtle.
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Obviously the team will keep rolling with Campbell. That is fine. My point is that I've seen enough that I do not expect anything to change. I've also seen enough that I am going to stop knocking my head against a wall in these threads.
Then stop watching. See, problem solved. Now we both can stop being annoyed.
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Obviously the team will keep rolling with Campbell. That is fine. My point is that I've seen enough that I do not expect anything to change. I've also seen enough that I am going to stop knocking my head against a wall in these threads.
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