Campbell's numbers dont lie

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

You compared him to Garrard and in the thread you posted you also compared him to Leftwich. All totally different QBs. Garrard when he became a starter was more of a running QB. Leftwich has two cement blocks for feet. Campbell is somewhere in between. But a better passer than both in this point in his career IMO. Garrard is a decent passer. But he was more of a running threat when he first started. JC can run. But rarely does.

In the thread referenced I actually did not compare him to Leftwich. I was responding to a comment about Leftwich and said that he is someone else who actually had (to that point) put up good statistical numbers but was not a very good quarterback and lacked a refined sense of timing and anticipation. If you read what I actually wrote it is quite clear and does not differ in tone from your characterization above.

Also, I am not sure how you can characterize Garrard as a "runner" or say that his "running" makes a comparison between he and Campbell inaccurate. In 2008 Garrard had the most rushing yards he has ever had as a professional (322). Campbell had 258. Garrard scrambles around because he does not get a clear picture at the snap or play with great timing. That is exactly the same reason that Campbell was moving so much in the pocket yesterday.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

In the thread referenced I actually did not compare him to Leftwich. I was responding to a comment about Leftwich and said that he is someone else who actually had (to that point) put up good statistical numbers but was not a very good quarterback and lacked a refined sense of timing and anticipation. If you read what I actually wrote it is quite clear and does not differ in tone from your characterization above.

Also, I am not sure how you can characterize Garrard as a "runner" or say that his "running" makes a comparison between he and Campbell inaccurate. In 2008 Garrard had the most rushing yards he has ever had as a professional (322). Campbell had 258. Garrard scrambles around because he does not get a clear picture at the snap or play with great timing. That is exactly the same reason that Campbell was moving so much in the pocket yesterday.

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not the kind of guy who will change my opinion of a player in the middle of a season. I'll re-evaluate Campbell given his whole body of work at the end of the season, and if I am in agreement that he's hit a developmental wall thanks to maxing out the extent at which he can process information and speed up his reads, then he'll always just be mediocre. That will be obvious at the end of the year if it's true. You'll hear it here first.

Now, when you brought up a Garrard comparison in the other thread, that struck me as interesting. Because you alluded to the flaws that Jason shared with David Garrard. But you never really built the anti-Garrard case. What if a stats guy like me watches Garrard on Sunday against the Titans and says, "this is a well above average quarterback with mobility." And then your comparison kind of falls apart.

So while I'm kinda intrigued by your angle, I wish you would have built your case better so I have something to respond to/watch for.