looking at the numbers at the 25% mark of the season

[firstdown]

Zorn said something yesterday that I think alot of us forget. They are still working on the timing and running a WCO. Joe T. said last year that it takes at least two years to get down the timming of this system down.

[DFI]

i saw someone mentioned the o line that has been consistantly a problem. Last year we were the only team in the league without a starting O Lineman in his twentys this year we were close to that, i know the wookie is young but he is about the only one. I don't understand why this can't be addressed in the draft or offseason free agency. We threw money at Jason Taylor and what did it get us? Haynesworth is good, but we could have done a ton on the O Line for 100 Million. We did pick up dockery but he is about the like the dutch boy with his finger in the dike at this point.

We need personel people who will make wise moves and things will begin to fall into place.

[hail_2_da_skins]

I have to believe that Zorn and his coaching staff have seen something in practice from Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly that we haven't seen in the game. They are not getting separation, fighting for receptions or finding holes in the zone. Why Marko Mitchell has not been activated and given an opportunity on game day is mind boggling. He cannot be any worse than Thomas and Kelly. Given an opportunity, he may make a play. We will never know, if he can't get off the pine.

[Stacks42]

Zorn mentioned on Comcast Sportsnet yesterday that he bascially only has DT on the field to run picks againt defenders, and he wants to get DT more involved.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Zorn mentioned on Comcast Sportsnet yesterday that he bascially only has DT on the field to run picks againt defenders, and he wants to get DT more involved.

If true, this is the most ridiculous thing I've heard today.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Zorn mentioned on Comcast Sportsnet yesterday that he bascially only has DT on the field to run picks againt defenders, and he wants to get DT more involved.

Yeah he basically said Thomas has been put on the field that much, and when he is it's often for the purposes of getting other receivers open. Not sure what that means. Does he think DT will draw double teams?

Wants to continue to feed Kelly, wants to see him get more separation.

[hooskins]

See Stacks, if true, that has to be painfully obvious to the opposition. They should know what is up every time DT is on the field. I guess it makes more sense why our offense sucks.

[Redskin Warrior]

why doesn't Zorn send DT & MK in motion to get more separation?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

why doesn't Zorn send DT & MK in motion to get more separation?

The answer is simple: they both play the "X" position in the offense. Well, not exclusively. But the 'X' can't go in motion legally.

Moss loses a lot of effectiveness if you line him up on the line, which they will sometimes, if only to send Cooley in motion for a specific play. But then Moss usually isn't a big part of the play.

It's tough for a guy like Kelly to get separation, sometimes you just have to hope for a size mismatch.

[SmootSmack]

I think I've seen Kelly in motion

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think I've seen Kelly in motion

Yeah. Zorn will go out of his way to design plays to get certain players involved, and one of the most useful film cues I have is when players go in motion, it's usually related to the play that will actually be called.

Especially if Zorn is trying to create a mismatch, which happens a lot. Problem is, the only mismatch Kelly and Thomas provide is if they are going up against Muggsy Bogges. Kelly seems to excel against zone coverages, however. No stats on that, just anecdotal evidence.

[SmootSmack]

It's not like Duke Robinson is doing much right now either though. A lot of teams passed on him, and he's been sitting now on the Panthers inactive roster.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's not like Duke Robinson is doing much right now either though. A lot of teams passed on him, and he's been sitting now on the Panthers inactive roster.

True but Lionheart was sitting on the inactive roster too until Randy got hurt. What about Mack, Loadholt, and Oher? Loadholt and Oher are starting.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

True but Lionheart was sitting on the inactive roster too until Randy got hurt. What about Mack, Loadholt, and Oher? Loadholt and Oher are starting.

Well we did get Orakpo which I think will turn out pretty good. I agree it would have been nice if we had been able to have a 2nd or 3rd round pick to take an OL

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well we did get Orakpo which I think will turn out pretty good. I agree it would have been nice if we had been able to have a 2nd or 3rd round pick to take an OL

That's all I'm saying.