I Thought It Takes 2 Years To Learn The WCO

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Angry

I think that there has been progress. It just hasn't translated into points and wins yet. If the Skins stay the course, they can get there.

Staying the course wouldnt have saved the Titanic from sinking and it won't help this team. At some point, its time to abandon ship and get on another boat, so to speak. Whether that process starts after the bye week or at the end of the season, it doesnt change the fact that this ship is sinking under Zorns leadership. Hiring him as HC was one of the biggest mistakes this franchsise has made in its history. Staying the course any longer than necessary won't change that fact. Someone else will be coaching the skins in 2010. We can either start laying the groundwork for that now, or wait until the seasons over and "blow everything up." It needs to happen. Its going to happen. Staying the course is not an option.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Staying the course wouldnt have saved the Titanic from sinking and it won't help this team. At some point, its time to abandon ship and get on another boat, so to speak. Whether that process starts after the bye week or at the end of the season, it doesnt change the fact that this ship is sinking under Zorns leadership. Hiring him as HC was one of the biggest mistakes this franchsise has made in its history. Staying the course any longer than necessary won't change that fact. Someone else will be coaching the skins in 2010. We can either start laying the groundwork for that now, or wait until the seasons over and "blow everything up." It needs to happen. Its going to happen. Staying the course is not an option.

So you want to compare a cruise ship to a football team? I would rather use the stock market. You don't want to sell too quickly. The football team will never sink and be lost forever, a ship is most likely gone if it sinks. A football team can come back after a shitty performance, a boat...not so much. A stock can be doing very poorly one day and come back strong for a long time. The team hasn't totally matured under the WCO and Zorn, its too soon to cut our loses. I think you have to give a coach at least 4 years (except for a very few like Gibbs and Belichick). Don't start rambling about Tomlin and Gruden, those were Cowher's and Dungee's teams. But hey, what do I know, I am just a fan on a fan site.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Angry

So you want to compare a cruise ship to a football team? I would rather use the stock market. You don't want to sell too quickly. The football team will never sink and be lost forever a ship is most likely gone if it sinks. A football teams can come back after a shitty performance, a boat...not so much. A stock can be doing very poorly one day and come back strong for a long time. The team hasn't totally matured under the WCO and Zorn, its too soon to cut our loses. I think you have to give a coach at least 4 years (except for a very few like Gibbs and Belichick). Don't start rambling about Tomlin and Gruden, those were Cowher's and Dungee's teams. But hey, what do I know, I am just a fan on a fan site.

I agree, but there's no way any coach is going to get four yrs. out of Snyder unless he get's the team to the payoffs each of those four yrs. and ultimately wins a championship. It matters less who the coach is, if the team does not make improvements coaches will just be a repeat performance.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Staying the course wouldnt have saved the Titanic from sinking ...

Interesting note I once learned. If the Titanic had changed it's course one minute earlier, or one minute later, the ship would have survived. I think earlier and they would have missed the iceberg, later and they would have rammed the front compartment which was sealed and would not have flooded the whole ship.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Interesting note I once learned. If the Titanic had changed it's course one minute earlier, or one minute later, the ship would have survived. I think earlier and they would have missed the iceberg, later and they would have rammed the front compartment which was sealed and would not have flooded the whole ship.

Not to get off the point but if they would have changed course later wouldn't they have already hit the iceberg?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Not to get off the point but if they would have changed course later wouldn't they have already hit the iceberg?

Read what he wrote

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Read what he wrote

Well I have to take that 1 minute earlier would be one minute before they hit the iceberg and one minute later would have been one minute after they hit the iceberg. So what am I missing?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well I have to take that 1 minute earlier would be one minute before they hit the iceberg and one minute later would have been one minute after they hit the iceberg. So what am I missing?

Like he said, read what he wrote.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Not to get off the point but if they would have changed course later wouldn't they have already hit the iceberg?

well I tried to find a link and I couldn't. I probably said it wrong before as well. If they spotted the iceberg one minute before, and changed course at that point then they would have missed the iceberg. If they spotted the iceberg one minute later, and thus changed course one minute later, they would have rammed the iceberg head on, and the front compartment seals would have kept the boat afloat either completely or long enough for the ship to be cleared properly (like i said I don't remember).

But because of when they saw it and reacted to it they were caught in mid turn, and tore the side open which was not sealed, and the water flooded the boat quickly and the tragedy resulted.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

well I tried to find a link and I couldn't. I probably said it wrong before as well. If they spotted the iceberg one minute before, and changed course at that point then they would have missed the iceberg. If they spotted the iceberg one minute later, and thus changed course one minute later, they would have rammed the iceberg head on, and the front compartment seals would have kept the boat afloat either completely or long enough for the ship to be cleared properly (like i said I don't remember).

But because of when they saw it and reacted to it they were caught in mid turn, and tore the side open which was not sealed, and the water flooded the boat quickly and the tragedy resulted.

Well now that makes more sense.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well now that makes more sense.

Actually, the titanic never sank. Its all a big conspiracy.

Titanic alternative theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gardiner's Ship That Never Sank
One of the most controversial[5][6] and complex theories was put forward by Robin Gardiner in his book, Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?[7] In it, Gardiner draws on several events and coincidences that occurred in the months, days, and hours leading up to the sinking of the Titanic, and concludes that the ship that sank was in fact the Titanic's sister-ship RMS Olympic, disguised as the Titanic, as an insurance scam.

And before you mock me and say anyone would be crazy to beleive that, just remember that "Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information."

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Staying the course wouldnt have saved the Titanic from sinking and it won't help this team. At some point, its time to abandon ship and get on another boat, so to speak. Whether that process starts after the bye week or at the end of the season, it doesnt change the fact that this ship is sinking under Zorns leadership. Hiring him as HC was one of the biggest mistakes this franchsise has made in its history. Staying the course any longer than necessary won't change that fact. Someone else will be coaching the skins in 2010. We can either start laying the groundwork for that now, or wait until the seasons over and "blow everything up." It needs to happen. Its going to happen. Staying the course is not an option.

this seems perfectly timed for what we were talking about yesterday . . .

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcs...ic_the_mo.html

go skins!!

dang it its supposed to be this skins 2009 titanic video spoof posted on the wash post . . . shooot.