Jerry Gray takes over Media Duties from Blache

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The more this circus goes on, the more I wish Snyder would just sell the team and just blow it all up and start all over again. It realy ashame whats happened to this franchise since he has taken over. For all the idoits who say "dont blame Snyder" he is the constant common dominator over this pathetic last 10 years.

as an idoit who says "dont blame Snyder", I agree he is the constant dominator over the past 10 years. I agree it has been a pathetic 10 years. I don't agree that selling the team to another rich billionaire fan who is going to repeat the same pattern of mistakes makes any sense. I don't agree that the Snyder that bought the team is the same Snyder that currently is trying to figure out what his appropriate role is. I don't agree that change for change sake is a good thing. And finally, I don't see how calling for something that won't happen in my lifetime (and I have a bit of time left Lord willing) is in any way the thought of a sensible/rational person.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

as an idoit who says "dont blame Snyder", I agree he is the constant dominator over the past 10 years. I agree it has been a pathetic 10 years. I don't agree that selling the team to another rich billionaire fan who is going to repeat the same pattern of mistakes makes any sense. I don't agree that the Snyder that bought the team is the same Snyder that currently is trying to figure out what his appropriate role is. I don't agree that change for change sake is a good thing. And finally, I don't see how calling for something that won't happen in my lifetime (and I have a bit of time left Lord willing) is in any way the thought of a sensible/rational person.

If Snyder needs to find out what his roll is, simply look around the league at successful organizations (Giants, Pats, Steelers) and see how their owners do things. See they let "football" people run things, making the big decisions. Now Im not saying that always work but dont tell me with the money he is willing to pay people, he could not pull someone from another organization, fire Vinny or demote him to a scout, and say "Ive tryed my way for 10 years and it doesnt work, please fix this and I will stay hands off with my enormous open check book." Until then we will be grouped with the other owners like Jerry Jones and Al Davis. I guess Im just sick of these crazy ass moves, getting a bingo caller on offense without consulting the head coach and then having your D coordinator saying im not talking to the media anymore....this is not normal operations for a football team...if Blanche (who I support and thinks he does the best job on a weak coaching staff) cant take talking to the media cause its just too much, just retire if you dont want to be here. Skins are a circus...the Snyder era has hit a bottom, next stop is Raiders-land of knocking out assistant coaches and the owner calling the sidelines inserting D and O packages during the game. Oh and CRedskinsRule not calling you an idiot, just frustrated. And your post quote about building the house rules and completely relates to this topic of Snyder running things, maybe he should read it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If Snyder needs to find out what his roll is, simply look around the league at successful organizations (Giants, Pats, Steelers) and see how their owners do things. See they let "football" people run things, making the big decisions. Now Im not saying that always work but dont tell me with the money he is willing to pay people, he could not pull someone from another organization, fire Vinny or demote him to a scout, and say "Ive tryed my way for 10 years and it doesnt work, please fix this and I will stay hands off with my enormous open check book." Until then we will be grouped with the other owners like Jerry Jones and Al Davis. I guess Im just sick of these crazy ass moves, getting a bingo caller on offense without consulting the head coach and then having your D coordinator saying im not talking to the media anymore....this is not normal operations for a football team...if Blanche (who I support and thinks he does the best job on a weak coaching staff) cant take talking to the media cause its just too much, just retire if you dont want to be here. Skins are a circus...the Snyder era has hit a bottom, next stop is Raiders-land of knocking out assistant coaches and the owner calling the sidelines inserting D and O packages during the game. Oh and CRedskinsRule not calling you an idiot, just frustrated. And your post quote about building the house rules and completely relates to this topic of Snyder running things, maybe he should read it.

Any Skins fan who isn't frustrated, is pure and simple weird, or not a real fan. I think every one of us looks at the team and tries to figure out this basic thought: "Why the heck can't the team I have watched all my life put together a team that is clearly capable of winning it all year in and out?" How many fans want their teams to be bottom of their division over and over? So we look at the team and some say: It must start at the top. or We need a new xxx (qb, rb whatever player of the day). or if a "real" football guy were the GM. or in my case - firing one low level position coach (cough cough Hixon cough cough).

The reality is it has been 10 years of trying approach after approach, bringing in a bad coach set us back, going after big names, etc. But my point is Snyder isn't selling this team, he is trying - in my opinion - to do what it takes, and as a fan, I can only hope that he gets it right. In the meantime, I will use my fan glasses to evaluate the moves made (i have no power to change them, so I hope for the best), and watch each gameday hoping that today is the day.

a couple specific points:
Cerrato brought Lewis in, to lay that at DS' feet is wrong, unless you want him to override his football guy

Cerrato is a "football guy" you and others may not think he is the quality that you want, but he is and has been a football guy for since the early 90's and does have some successes on his record

Bringing in a consultant is not a wild ass crazy move like JJ or Al Davis would make. Those two owners specifically think they know everything, and people who question them, like Dan Reeves, or any number of coaches in Oakland, are shown the door. DS has shown much more patience and respect to those who he brings in. And, businesses bring consultants in all the time(look in the yellow pages) when an area of operation is not producing like it should, football should be no different.

The Skins aren't a circus, they are a Bingo tent.

Finally I know fully well that I am an idiot, and I have an ex-wife who will gladly tell you every legitimate reason + some

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Bringing in a consultant is not a wild ass crazy move like JJ or Al Davis would make. Those two owners specifically think they know everything, and people who question them, like Dan Reeves, or any number of coaches in Oakland, are shown the door. DS has shown much more patience and respect to those who he brings in. And, businesses bring consultants in all the time(look in the yellow pages) when an area of operation is not producing like it should, football should be no different.

The Skins aren't a circus, they are a Bingo tent.

Finally I know fully well that I am an idiot, and I have an ex-wife who will gladly tell you every legitimate reason + some

How about bringing in a knowledgable consultant in the offseason to be your GM? If he's willing to trust "experienced football guys" and bring them on during the season why doesn't he find a good consultant and leave him alone to manage our roster in the offseason?

Bring in all the consultants you want. Whoever uses one is usually the CEO of that business and thus would never receive any negative feedback on their influence in that company.

Basically a consultant for a company you also personally manage is just going to be a higher priced Yes Man.


Why does Snyder suddenly trust the opinion of an outside experienced football guy four weeks into the season?

[skinsguy]

I just wish whatever is going to happen to go ahead and happen. I'm so tired of this constant starting over again. I really wished Gibbs would have coached out his contract with the Redskins.

I have a feeling if the Redskins lose against Carolina this Sunday, Zorn is good as gone. But, isn't it funny that there are teams with 0-4 records who, at least to us, appear to not be going through the same drama as the Redskins, who are 2-2?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I just wish whatever is going to happen to go ahead and happen. I'm so tired of this constant starting over again. I really wished Gibbs would have coached out his contract with the Redskins.

I have a feeling if the Redskins lose against Carolina this Sunday, Zorn is good as gone. But, isn't it funny that there are teams with 0-4 records who, at least to us, appear to not be going through the same drama as the Redskins, who are 2-2?

How do you know the team is going through all this drama and its not just something on the internet.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by firstdown

How do you know the team is going through all this drama and its not just something on the internet.

Not sure I'm following you with your question. Do you mean just on the forums from fans, or the internet in general? Either way, I've read articles in newspapers and I've heard it discussed on television as well. No matter where it's being discussed, there has been some form of drama created around the Redskins. Certainly it may appear to be more drama for 'skins since we 'skins fans keep up with our team more than other teams, but I live closer to Carolina Panther country than Redskins country, and haven't heard a word about any drama with the Panthers other than them just starting off very slowly.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I just wish whatever is going to happen to go ahead and happen. I'm so tired of this constant starting over again. I really wished Gibbs would have coached out his contract with the Redskins.

I have a feeling if the Redskins lose against Carolina this Sunday, Zorn is good as gone. But, isn't it funny that there are teams with 0-4 records who, at least to us, appear to not be going through the same drama as the Redskins, who are 2-2?

I've thought about this as I look at our schedule. I don't know what the fans are like in Carolina but that team went 12-4, lost in the playoffs w/a 6 int. day from its qb, who then comes back in 09 to throw more int.s and they're 0-3!

At the beginning of the year everyone (most polls anyway) had W. Phillips as most on the hot seat. Now they're 2-2 & it seems that Romo & garrett are getting more heat than phillips.

think about this, what if tampa had signed AH instead of us? They might still be winless, but they'd have that huge contract to deal with. I think much of it comes back to that, the money that's being spent while either losing or fielding a mediocre team.

[SmootSmack]

Zorn: "He needed a break....I would put it as personal reasons."

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Zorn: "He needed a break....I would put it as personal reasons."

Interesting. Let's over analyze this statement for the next three pages and see what we come up with...lol!

[skinsguy]

I'm personally hoping that we will start a big win streak so that we can put all the speculation to rest.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I'm personally hoping that we will start a big win streak so that we can put all the speculation to rest.

Then what would we talk about all week?

[saden1]

It could just be he is tired of having to answer stupid questions. Maybe this will do some good for our defense and Gray's career.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

It could just be he is tired of having to answer stupid questions. Maybe this will do some good for our defense and Gray's career.

Well that would be way to easy.

[FRPLG]

God everything that is happening with this team seems like chaos.