Updated/Merged: Shanahan Rumors (Will He or Won't He?)

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Same story as last week and the week before and on and on and on

The fallacy is, it really doe snot matter who is coach. Bring in Gruden, bring in Shanahan. Doesnt matter. Until there is a change in the way the front office operates, you will get what you have gotten the last decade, insignificant football. Period. Nothing else to be said. Just look at the offensive line that Snyderrato built. Nuff said.

What OL? Vinny forgot to build it, he said it wasn't necessary.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

What OL? Vinny forgot to build it.

Exactly. Listen, it just is NOT the starters. The depth is awful. The whole thing is just awful.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Exactly. Listen, it just is NOT the starters. The depth is awful. The whole thing is just awful.

Maybe Vinny will go fishing in the UFL league.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Maybe Vinny will go fishing in the UFL league.

Lol. Sad thing is, it goes way beyond the OLine too. This team's talent level is way overestimated by Redskins fans. Notice how EVERY year we praise our team on paper and every year we spend time here bitching about how bad we are. How can you have ten years of great talent but little results? Answer --- you cant. It's a talent issue. Good teams win, period.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Lol. Sad thing is, it goes way beyond the OLine too. This team's talent level is way overestimated by Redskins fans. Notice how EVERY year we praise our team on paper and every year we spend time here bitching about how bad we are. How can you have ten years of great talent but little results? Answer --- you cant. It's a talent issue. Good teams win, period.

Like I posted in another thread, we have too many 1st round picks with huge egos who think they are better than they really are. We lack players like in Gibbs I (3rd rounders, mid to low round and FA signees) who are hungry and play with a sense of urgency to make and stay with the team. Too many over paid Prima Donnas.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Exactly. Listen, it just is NOT the starters. The depth is awful. The whole thing is just awful.

I can't agree more.

During the game today I saw Samuels go down and I knew the atrocity that would transpire after. I remember saying to myself that was a key person we couldn't afford to lose.

Then Rocky McIntosh went down in the 2nd half and I said the very same thing. We have NO ONE to back up any of these guys.

How can Chris Samuels, Rocky McIntosh, London Fletcher, Albert Haynesworth, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis ALL BE SO VITAL to our team that we can't afford to lose any of them.


You know how fragile your team has to be to have that many players that can't be lost for the year.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I can't agree more.

During the game today I saw Samuels go down and I knew the atrocity that would transpire after. I remember saying to myself that was a key person we couldn't afford to lose.

Then Rocky McIntosh went down in the 2nd half and I said the very same thing. We have NO ONE to back up any of these guys.

How can Chris Samuels, Rocky McIntosh, London Fletcher, Albert Haynesworth, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis ALL BE SO VITAL to our team that we can't afford to lose any of them.


You know how fragile your team has to be to have that many players that can't be lost for the year.

Yup. Makes me feel bad for Zorn. This roster is so poorly put together it's almost hilarious.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yup. Makes me feel bad for Zorn. This roster is so poorly put together it's almost hilarious.

Almost.......... Shit it is hilarious

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yup. Makes me feel bad for Zorn. This roster is so poorly put together it's almost hilarious.

Actually, how many teams do not have key players that they cannot recover if they lose?
Ex. we get Haynesworth and the Titans D is?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Actually, how many teams do not have key players that they cannot recover if they lose?
Ex. we get Haynesworth and the Titans D is?

True, very true

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Actually, how many teams do not have key players that they cannot recover if they lose?
Ex. we get Haynesworth and the Titans D is?

Every team has key players that they don't want to lose. The difference w/ us is that our depth is really bad. Our #1 backup, Rinehart, plays 2 games and then is benched b/c i assume he isn't very good. If he was he'd still be in there. The guy replacing him, hasn't played in a couple years and just lost 100 lbs. Batiste may not be able to even make another roster. Also, Heyer is a starter for us and he's not starter quality.

The problem w/ all of this, is that we didn't address this in last years draft when we had 3 2nd rounders. Part of the reason, is that we had other areas of need too. The reason we had other areas of need is b/c we have been wasteful of draft picks in the last 10 years+. It's a giant snowball that gets bigger and bigger.

Check out this information that I ran accross the other day. In the last 10 years...

tal number of picks in the first 4 rounds:
Tennessee – 53 (56% of picks are in the first 4 rounds)
Philadelphia – 44 (54%)
New England – 43 (54%)
Indianapolis – 42 (52%)
Baltimore – 42 (52%)
Pittsburgh – 40 (51%)
NY Giants – 40 (54%)
Washington – 27 (43%)

# of offensive linemen drafted (OG+OT+C):
Philadelphia – 17 (21% of all picks were offensive linemen)
New England – 15 (19%)
Baltimore – 15 (19%)
Pittsburgh – 15 (19%)
Indianapolis – 14 (17%)
Tennessee – 13 (14%)
Washington – 8 (13%)
NY Giants – 8 (11%)

Czabe.com: Not Exactly A Blueprint for Winning Football

Hence, our depth isn't generally going to be as good as other teams. that's why we need a GM, an intellegent GM, here.