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Old 10-14-2009, 09:19 AM   #1
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I don't think anyone could blame him if he is considering hanging it up. He's had a heck of a career. Nothing left to prove.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:29 AM   #2
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Everyone keeps talking about a RT that we've needed.. yeah, but to get trained up to take over the LT spot eventually. Samuels isn't what he used to be and I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see a healthy season from him again. We have to think of BOTH tackles ASAP.
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:07 PM   #3
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I say let him rest until 2010 and re-evaluate then- praying he's better (he's a 14.4 cap hit right?) nothing left to play for this year (in most realistic scenarios).
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:38 PM   #4
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I say let him rest until 2010 and re-evaluate then- praying he's better (he's a 14.4 cap hit right?) nothing left to play for this year (in most realistic scenarios).
I dont think it is an injury that can be fixed with time. He has Stenosis of the spine. That is progressive degeneration of the spine. Basicaly, the spinal canal is narrowing. If you watch the play, he barely gets hit and goes to the ground, seemingly with some degree of temporary paralysis. This does not bode well for future play.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:38 PM   #5
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I dont think it is an injury that can be fixed with time. He has Stenosis of the spine. That is progressive degeneration of the spine. Basicaly, the spinal canal is narrowing. If you watch the play, he barely gets hit and goes to the ground, seemingly with some degree of temporary paralysis. This does not bode well for future play.
Yeah, after reading some about it and former players who went from 100% to retired (Mack Strong, Michael Irvin among others) with this condition, I think we may have seen the last of #60 in the burgundy and gold. I'm not wishing that, of course, but you don't mess with a neck injury. If he doesn't come back after the bye (since his next appointment with the doctor is next week, I'm counting him out for Philly) then he's basically done.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:56 AM   #6
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Really bad news from the Insider as well...

"Samuels plans to meet with physicians Tuesday to re-evaluate his injury, but after speaking with league sources the past two days, I expect Samuels to sit out the rest of the season and seriously contemplate retirement. When you start talking about spinal cords (Samuels has played with stenosis, a narrowing of the spine, since high school.) and possible nerve damage, well, Samuels is too smart to risk his future health. No player in that locker room is tougher or more dedicated to his teammates than Samuels; he's proven that time and time again, players said, but it's not as if he has a broken arm or a high-ankle sprain. We're talking about being able to walk."

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With Samuels out for the season/forever, I really don't know what happens to this team long-term. By the time the O-line is rebuilt, you have Portis and Fletcher who will definitely be gone, not to mention the unpredictable change that could follow at QB and HC.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:09 PM   #7
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Will Montgomery gets the start at RG
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You know I must not know anything about football, because I thought Rinehart played better than Thomas, and way better than Williams. On fourth and three, the key to the game Williams wiffs on his man. I dont understand.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:18 PM   #9
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musical guards, always makes for a solid line. Sometimes its not necessarily to improve from a 72 to a 74, if the whole line improves to a 75 by having a consistent set of players. Anyone with "inside knowledge" know if this is Bugels call or JZ's. I would be interested to know if JZ keeps overriding Bugel on this.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:22 PM   #10
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musical guards, always makes for a solid line. Sometimes its not necessarily to improve from a 72 to a 74, if the whole line improves to a 75 by having a consistent set of players. Anyone with "inside knowledge" know if this is Bugels call or JZ's. I would be interested to know if JZ keeps overriding Bugel on this.
Zorn reportedly defers to Bugel on this, but who knows for sure
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If Samuels retires, then we won't have much of choices next year but to resign J. Campbell (that is if he wants to come back) and use almost all of our picks to draft O-linemen next year..
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The Redskins seem to have a knack for ruining players instead of developing them. Rinehart played pretty well. He was drafted for this spot. His confidence must be sky high right now. We can't develop receivers and our history with QB's after Gibbs 1 hasn't been very impressive. WTF. Does anyone in this organization know what they're doing?
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:28 PM   #13
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Samuels out. I see a run, run, quick pass scenario. Maybe a pass, sack, fumble scenario at some point. Maybe a pass, sack, injury-Todd Collins scenario.

Ugggg. Not good.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:42 PM   #14
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I guess Rinehart didn't pan out but there had to be other offensive linemen available when he was drafted in the third round two years ago. The O-Line needs some strength training. I'd like to hear what Joe Bugel has to say about the O-Line.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:48 PM   #15
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I guess Rinehart didn't pan out but there had to be other offensive linemen available when he was drafted in the third round two years ago. The O-Line needs some strength training. I'd like to hear what Joe Bugel has to say about the O-Line.
I thought there was an article that four of the OL(Samuels, Thomas, Dock, not sure who else) trained pretty hard together in AZ prior to training camp.
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