Future/Rebuild/Good News?

[mlmpetert]

I see no reason to get rid of or replace Campbell. No one is going to do much better in the current circumstances.

I will also add that i am also officially fed up. The Redskins are not only bad but are the least exciting team to watch. Ive fallen asleep during the last 3 games. I just dont really care anymore about this seasons. I love them, but I just dont care right now.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I see no reason to get rid of or replace Campbell. No one is going to do much better in the current circumstances.

I will also add that i am also officially fed up. The Redskins are not only bad but are the least exciting team to watch. Ive fallen asleep during the last 3 games. I just dont really care anymore about this seasons. I love them, but I just dont care right now.

ROFLMAO, Sorry. I know that when the Redskins game came on everything stopped for me. No grocery store, no mowing the lawn, no anything. I was glued to the set through thick and thin. Now I find myself doing other things and stopping for a few min. to observe the game. Last week I spent more time on the internet ..here.. saying they would lose and the score would be 19-17, I was off by one point. I just don't care either and now the Capitals are killing me and I hope the Wizards have a decent showing but atleast I can understand if they don't cause they have a new HC starting a new scheme.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I see no reason to get rid of or replace Campbell. No one is going to do much better in the current circumstances.

I will also add that i am also officially fed up. The Redskins are not only bad but are the least exciting team to watch. Ive fallen asleep during the last 3 games. I just dont really care anymore about this seasons. I love them, but I just dont care right now.

I totally agree regarding Campbell. Snyerato has made little effort over the last 5 years to add quality young depth on the O-line.

I can definitely see the fan base getting fed up to the point that another few years of this crap, home blackouts are not out of the question. I split season tix with a neighbor until 2006, but I ignore calls from the Danny's marketing folks trying to get me to buy back in. Give us a better product, and only then will I consider giving you my hard earned money.

[redsk1]

Yes, we have mediocre talent. I'm ok w/ getting rid of some older guys as our team needs to be built thru young talented players. What did Ted Leonis say about always thinking you are a player or two away? It's not a very smart way to go about building a team. Be honest w/ yourself.

We do have some building blocks here mostly on defense. On offense, i'd like to keep Cooley and ummm, ahh, mmmm..

[JLee9718]

The defense is NOT set. We have some good players, but the older players have some issues with the size of Haynesworth's contract (i.e., for a part-time player). I thought the run defense was much better last year, and the pass defense looked better last year. So maybe we've regressed on defense.

The O-Line was better last year, and the Skins have to do something there pretty soon. Zorn is not the problem, but Vinny is (along with Snyder). As far as Flacco and Ryan are concerned, they went to teams with a strong running game, plus solid O-Lines. Portis looks like he's slowed down quite a bit, and he's complaining about Sellers not blocking for him? How about speeding up some, CP!

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

The defense is NOT set. We have some good players, but the older players have some issues with the size of Haynesworth's contract (i.e., for a part-time player). I thought the run defense was much better last year, and the pass defense looked better last year. So maybe we've regressed on defense.

The O-Line was better last year, and the Skins have to do something there pretty soon. Zorn is not the problem, but Vinny is (along with Snyder). As far as Flacco and Ryan are concerned, they went to teams with a strong running game, plus solid O-Lines. Portis looks like he's slowed down quite a bit, and he's complaining about Sellers not blocking for him? How about speeding up some, CP!

LB is still slim, especially if Rocky isn't re-signed. London can't play forever, and I'm not convinced Blades is an adequate replacement. The D has stepped up the past 2 weeks. They got the team 14 points & didn't give up a real TD drive. Carolina scored its td's on a short field both times, just like we did.

[warpaint]

Portis should go who is tired of seeing him pumpiing his legs and driving his shoulder in his own lineman when there is a big runing lane next to him if only he would bounce out and take the lane , but he has been doing that for years know.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Well what more is there to say about this season? It has, in my eyes, ended before it could even get started. So lets look at the positives.

*Jim Zorn is on his way out. One way or the other he's done.

*Dan Snyder isn't stupid. If he could ever get his ego in check we'd have a good football team. Let's cross our fingers and hope he gets it soon.

I don't see it happening, at least not soon. Arrogance tends to be an incurable disease. It is too easy to blame others and usually a person is too arrogant to ever admit to themselves how arrogant they are.

The arrogant usually stay arrogant until death.

[Son Of Man]

The good news is that we do have some solid-to-good pieces to build a tam around. A few roster moves this year can get us to being a respectable team. Then build for a dynasty after that. Here's my take:

QB- Trade Campbell for a 4th/5th rounder, keep Collins & Brennan, draft a franchise QB in this year's draft dubbed "the year of the quaterback". (Bradford, Claussen or McCoy)

RB- Portis (contract), drop Betts & Rock, keep Mason & Alridge, look for mid round draft talent.

WR- Moss (solid, but not true #1), build around Kelly/Thomas/Mitchell, cut Randle El (any trade would be welcome but not probable).

TE- Cooley & Davis (develop the latter)

OL- This is the key to any future success! Keep Dockery & Rabach (not a Casey fan but needed for continuity for another year). Trade Samuels for what he may be worth (est. 3rd). Draft a G or Tin 2nd round AND possibly 3rd or 4th. Get FA lineman to fill holes. Keep Rinehart/Montgomery for depth.

DL- Fine, but get rid of Daniels/Wynn/Montgomery. Bring in FA depth. Jarmon takes over LE next year. Orakpo to RE.

LB- Fine but fine heir apparent to Fletcher, not HB. Wilson to SLB or get a true SAM via free agency.

S- Fine.

CB- Fine. May need replacement for Los.



Most importantly.....proven coaching regime.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

The good news is that we do have some solid-to-good pieces to build a tam around. A few roster moves this year can get us to being a respectable team. Then build for a dynasty after that. Here's my take:

QB- Trade Campbell for a 4th/5th rounder, keep Collins & Brennan, draft a franchise QB in this year's draft dubbed "the year of the quaterback". (Bradford, Claussen or McCoy)

RB- Portis (contract), drop Betts & Rock, keep Mason & Alridge, look for mid round draft talent.

WR- Moss (solid, but not true #1), build around Kelly/Thomas/Mitchell, cut Randle El (any trade would be welcome but not probable).

TE- Cooley & Davis (develop the latter)

OL- This is the key to any future success! Keep Dockery & Rabach (not a Casey fan but needed for continuity for another year). Trade Samuels for what he may be worth (est. 3rd). Draft a G or Tin 2nd round AND possibly 3rd or 4th. Get FA lineman to fill holes. Keep Rinehart/Montgomery for depth.

DL- Fine, but get rid of Daniels/Wynn/Montgomery. Bring in FA depth. Jarmon takes over LE next year. Orakpo to RE.

LB- Fine but fine heir apparent to Fletcher, not HB. Wilson to SLB or get a true SAM via free agency.

S- Fine.

CB- Fine. May need replacement for Los.



Most importantly.....proven coaching regime.

Let's keep this simple. It starts and ends with the OL. I'm not convinced that Zorn would be a failure if he had a competent OL. What do the first-time head coaches in Denver, Atlanta, Baltimore, and NY Jets have in common? All have strong OL's to keep their young QB's upright.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Let's keep this simple. It starts and ends with the OL. I'm not convinced that Zorn would be a failure if he had a competent OL. What do the first-time head coaches in Denver, Atlanta, Baltimore, and NY Jets have in common? All have strong OL's to keep their young QB's upright.

Before yesterday's game, Campbell was one of the least sacked QBs in the league. And even when they were 6-2 last year, Campbell only had 8 TDs (on pace for 16). We've seen how good he can be with an upright Campbell. 12 points a game good.

[Trample the Elderly]

Just posted this on Chris Cooley's Blog:

Chris, I've watched you become a very good football player for this team but I don't know if I can do it anymore. I've waited over ten years for management to get its act together. Please tell the players and coaches for me that I really appreciate the hardwork they've put in for us fans. I'm on my last leg though. How we don't draft a tackle is beyond me? I hold Vinny and Dan responsible for this mess. If Dan doesn't stop treating this team like a fantasy football team and hire a GM, I'm gone man. This isn't easy. This team is a big part of my life. It has been for years. I don't think I can do it any longer. I've just stopped caring. I wish you success where ever and who ever you play for. When you first came in you dropped the ball all the time. I've watched you develop into a true football player worthy of wearing that uniform. Tell Dan I hold him responsible for running a proud franchise into the dirt. It's a GD shame.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't see it happening, at least not soon. Arrogance tends to be an incurable disease. It is too easy to blame others and usually a person is too arrogant to ever admit to themselves how arrogant they are.

The arrogant usually stay arrogant until death.

Wise words Lotus. There's also the possibility lil Danny doesn't read anything negative, doesn't even look outside his tiny bubble. People might read that w/ disbelief...how can someone in such a position of power keep such a narrow outlook? Well I suspect it sorta comes w/ the territory. Someone wealthy enough to literally create his own little world probably doesn't look beyond it much.

[GTripp0012]

Whether our receivers are set or not depends on Marko Mitchell. Kelly seems like a long-term complementary figure -- a Randle El replacement, if you will. Thomas hasn't shown me much at all. If Marko Mitchell can emerge as some sort of a deep threat, then you can address another receiver in free agency pretty easily. If Mitchell isn't NFL-starting caliber, then you pretty much have to go back to the draft and find a guy who is.

Disappointing, yes, but it is what it is.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Whether our receivers are set or not depends on Marko Mitchell. Kelly seems like a long-term complementary figure -- a Randle El replacement, if you will. Thomas hasn't shown me much at all. If Marko Mitchell can emerge as some sort of a deep threat, then you can address another receiver in free agency pretty easily. If Mitchell isn't NFL-starting caliber, then you pretty much have to go back to the draft and find a guy who is.

Disappointing, yes, but it is what it is.

There is still hope for our young WR. Just watch Mario Manningham in N.Y.