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Old 10-12-2009, 06:06 PM   #1
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So we go out and re-sign Renaldo Wynn. What a meaningless move. We are void of quality depth on the O-line, our best O-lineman goes down, and we bring back a D-lineman???
Seriously, I feel really idiotic at the moment with all my defense of the FO on the Oline. I knew as well as everyone Samuels was going down at some point, and in my defense I called loud to bring in a solid back up LT, but I thought the rest of the line would hold up, I thought Heyer and Rinehart would establish themselves early on, leaving MW, WM, and EW as a solid young backup group. Clearly, the right side of the line needs more than what Heyer showed against the last 4 teams.

So VC ought to do the following moves right now:

1) Sign LJ, through what ever salary cap manipulations it takes
2) Beg Marcus Washington to come back and use him. Junior Seau signed for the Patriots, MW will come back if we ask.
3) Fire Stan Hixon (I don't care if he is the greatest WR coach in the world, we aren't cutting any of our receivers but someone has to pay!!!! ) (I also know this is a half-assed lame reason, but people have been fired for lesser cause)
4) Strip JZ of play calling. I don't care if it's what he wants to do, right now he can't get it done.

That would make me feel like the FO was actually watching the same games as I am.
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:17 PM   #2
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Seriously, I feel really idiotic at the moment with all my defense of the FO on the Oline. I knew as well as everyone Samuels was going down at some point, and in my defense I called loud to bring in a solid back up LT, but I thought the rest of the line would hold up, I thought Heyer and Rinehart would establish themselves early on, leaving MW, WM, and EW as a solid young backup group. Clearly, the right side of the line needs more than what Heyer showed against the last 4 teams.

So VC ought to do the following moves right now:

1) Sign LJ, through what ever salary cap manipulations it takes
2) Beg Marcus Washington to come back and use him. Junior Seau signed for the Patriots, MW will come back if we ask.
3) Fire Stan Hixon (I don't care if he is the greatest WR coach in the world, we aren't cutting any of our receivers but someone has to pay!!!! ) (I also know this is a half-assed lame reason, but people have been fired for lesser cause)
4) Strip JZ of play calling. I don't care if it's what he wants to do, right now he can't get it done.

That would make me feel like the FO was actually watching the same games as I am.
Nice post! All these would would be positive moves and likely have an immediate impact. But I think you're last sentence is sorta the crux of the whole thing...very little we see makes me believe the FO has a realistic picture of the team. For the second consecutive season the Skins oline will be one of the worst in professional football...arguably the worst overall. Aging talent, mediocre youth and crappy depth. Signing an olineman would be like admitting a mistake and if there's one thing lil Danny and Vinny are renowned for it is their unparalleled egos...always the smartest guys in the room!!!
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:27 PM   #3
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Nice post! All these would would be positive moves and likely have an immediate impact. But I think you're last sentence is sorta the crux of the whole thing...very little we see makes me believe the FO has a realistic picture of the team. For the second consecutive season the Skins oline will be one of the worst in professional football...arguably the worst overall. Aging talent, mediocre youth and crappy depth. Signing an olineman would be like admitting a mistake and if there's one thing lil Danny and Vinny are renowned for it is their unparalleled egos...always the smartest guys in the room!!!
Amen!!! Snder is constantly running this team as if we're a player or two from championship caliber, when in reality, there are NUMEROUS holes to fill. We need front office with the patience to stockpile draft picks which can be used to fill holes and add cheap, quality depth. NE and Philly are masters at this. Snyderato insists that we have a plan. At what point will the FO admit that the plan is a bust? If they bring in Shanahan, or another big name, I want that coach to have FINAL say on all personnel matters since it's apparent that The Danny will never concede that he screwed up by not hiring a competent GM.
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:02 PM   #4
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Seriously, I feel really idiotic at the moment with all my defense of the FO on the Oline. I knew as well as everyone Samuels was going down at some point, and in my defense I called loud to bring in a solid back up LT, but I thought the rest of the line would hold up, I thought Heyer and Rinehart would establish themselves early on, leaving MW, WM, and EW as a solid young backup group. Clearly, the right side of the line needs more than what Heyer showed against the last 4 teams.

So VC ought to do the following moves right now:

1) Sign LJ, through what ever salary cap manipulations it takes
2) Beg Marcus Washington to come back and use him. Junior Seau signed for the Patriots, MW will come back if we ask.
3) Fire Stan Hixon (I don't care if he is the greatest WR coach in the world, we aren't cutting any of our receivers but someone has to pay!!!! ) (I also know this is a half-assed lame reason, but people have been fired for lesser cause)
4) Strip JZ of play calling. I don't care if it's what he wants to do, right now he can't get it done.

That would make me feel like the FO was actually watching the same games as I am.
By golly man. I think that would work! We've needed at least a good back-up LT for a couple of years. Marcus is missed, not only his play but his enthusiasm. Orakpo is a DE..that's where he should play. Stan Hixon....whatever, he won't be missed. In fact, are we sure he's even still here? Zorn has never been an OC and he has too many other responsibilities to be learning on the job right now. Sounds like a plan C!
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:07 PM   #5
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By golly man. I think that would work! We've needed at least a good back-up LT for a couple of years. Marcus is missed, not only his play but his enthusiasm. Orakpo is a DE..that's where he should play. Stan Hixon....whatever, he won't be missed. In fact, are we sure he's even still here? Zorn has never been an OC and he has too many other responsibilities to be learning on the job right now. Sounds like a plan C!
I am emailing it to Sherm today (which Sherm though that's a toughie)
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:36 PM   #6
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I go back to keeping Williams/Batiste and letting Bridges go. Buges messed up big time on that and here we are looking at our awful O-line depth.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:23 AM   #7
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I go back to keeping Williams/Batiste and letting Bridges go. Buges messed up big time on that and here we are looking at our awful O-line depth.
See, I don't have a problem with that per se. We kept youth, I don't see Bridges lighting up the world in Arizona (course I haven't watched so he could be). No one we were looking at would replace the Chris Samuels that was a probowl player.
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See, I don't have a problem with that per se. We kept youth, I don't see Bridges lighting up the world in Arizona (course I haven't watched so he could be). No one we were looking at would replace the Chris Samuels that was a probowl player.
Well we could have selected Michael Oher over Orakpo. Which position was a greater need SLB or RT/LT? We thought defense need a pass rusher was more important which it is but he doesnt rush every down. Put Rak on the D-Line.
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Well we could have selected Michael Oher over Orakpo. Which position was a greater need SLB or RT/LT? We thought defense need a pass rusher was more important which it is but he doesnt rush every down. Put Rak on the D-Line.
And I would have been fine with Oher, my fear (past tense) would have been if Orakpo had not been there then we still would have passed on Oher.
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