Looking ahead, it's only going to get worse

[SmootSmack]

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

I agree. If we get to that point why not see what we've got? An infusion of new blood may be just what we need, (among many other things). I've been waiting to see Mitchell get some plays called to him anyway. And guys like Rinehart should only get better with playing time. If we get to 2-6, let these guys start and let the ones that got us to that point sit. We're never going to know what we've got until they play in a real game anyway. Why keep playing guys who aren't going to be here next year if the season is lost?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

You wouldn't keep Raback for depth?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You wouldn't keep Raback for depth?

Well no, I'd start Montgomery at C and make Edwin Williams the backup G/C. Plus the scuttlebutt is that Rabach won't be re-signed anyway

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well no, I'd start Montgomery at C and make Edwin Williams the backup G/C. Plus the scuttlebutt is that Rabach won't be re-signed anyway

So, they're going to let Rabach walk and fill his shoes with two UDFAs? Tell me that we've someone on right guard that would be better than Rabach, Jansen, or Kendall right now. They only have 6 draft picks, maybe seven depending on how many sevenths the league gives us. After this year well need a LT and a RT?

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

I like the way you are thinking except why not do this now?

The Skins are not and will not win with the bloated vets they have. Give these young players a chance--they can't produce less than the semipro ball we've been watching this season...

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

Seems like a no brainer to me. But given that Zorn or Gray or whoever will almost certainly not be coming back next year and will thus be auditioning for another job, it's hard to imagine they will be concerned with playing for the future.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

Agree, but don't wait. No way we make the playoffs.

OL - Heyer RT, Rinehart RG, Monty C, Dock LG, Samuels LT (if he's injured Batiste, or MW, don't move Heyer)
QB - Give JC a couple more games, but don't protect him with the playcalls like this game. If he doesn't improve over the next two weeks. Play Woodson see what you have/don't have there. If a reasonable trade can be made for Quinn (something that doesn't include a #1 or #2 draft pick) pull the trigger and get Quinn in.
RB - more Mason in the rotation.
WR - In any 3WR set, DT at Z, Kelly at X, Moss at slot. 2WR sets go Moss at Z and rotate DT / Kelly depending on the playcall or situation. Deep go with DT, Possesion go Kelly.
TE - more 2TE sets that put Cooley and Davis in the slot to spread the D out more and create mismatches with LBs/DBs.

RDE - start Orakpo.
DT - keep current rotation
LDE - start Jarmon, cut Wynn, bring Jackson up.
LB - More Wilson, Blades, A. Carter if necessary until we can address LB in the off-season
CB - activate Barnes. I would go so far as to rotate Barnes in with Rogers/Hall. If Rogers is traded or allowed to leave, we need someone to step up in house. Tryon can be a good Nickel CB IMO, probably will have issues as a # 1 or #2 CB.
S - we're pretty set here.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

Often players believe against belief that they can turn things around, so cutting losses prematurely could send the wrong message. I'd wait until we've lost 7 games (which sadly may not be far off). At that point, I'd consider your plan to be spot on. Give the young bucks experience and an opportunity to prove themselves.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

Actually, I think you are in the majority. I would endorse ALL those moves. Further, I would have Marko Mitchell active and set the receivers as M.Kelly; D. Thomas/M. Mitchell alternate as No. 2/4; Moss as number 3; Randle-el as the 5th.

Also, DT is the return man - maybe he can end up being a spectacular returner a la' Desmond Howard.

Give Zorn a shot with the youngsters and see what happens. At the end of the year, show him the door if the ineptitude continues.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I know I'm in the minority here, but I think we have some talented players but they need to play. If we start to really falter, like we're 2-6, then why not start Montgomery at C and Rinehart at RG the rest of the way? Neither Rabach nor Thomas (most likely) will be here next year. Same with Smoot, make him inactive and make Barnes your dime back. Start Jarmon and Orakpo on the line. Start Chris Wilson, Start DT and Kelly, and make Moss your slot receiver...and so on

I totally agree. We do have some talented young players, all they need is an opportunity. Watching last night's game seeing so many young players making pays had me asking myself why can't the Redskins do that?

Braylon Edwards has only been with the Jets five days, scored two touchdowns on the kind of plays we should be running to our receivers Mitchell & Kelly. It's difficult for me to understand why our young players do not get more of a chance to show what they can do. We also need for the QB to be unafraid to give his receivers a chance to make a play.

[SFREDSKIN]

Joe Gibbs proved he could win with scrubs, with Bugel's coaching some of these young guys just might surprise. I'm not giving up, NEVER!!!!!!!!!!

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I totally agree. We do have some talented young players, all they need is an opportunity. Watching last night's game seeing so many young players making pays had me asking myself why can't the Redskins do that?

Braylon Edwards has only been with the Jets five days, scored two touchdowns on the kind of plays we should be running to our receivers Mitchell & Kelly. It's difficult for me to understand why our young players do not get more of a chance to show what they can do. We also need for the QB to be unafraid to give his receivers a chance to make a play.

JC went deep to Kelly in the Tampa game and Kelly was 1on1. Kelly did not fight for the ball and the Bucs picked it off. In the Panthers game he went deep to DT the boss hit his hands but he could not hold on. DT did lay out but it was a tough catch. Big time players make that catch.