is there a way that we the fans can be heard???

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Along with that rumor, maybe Tom Cruise has a role in securing a franchise for the Los Angeles area. Snyder could have something in the works with his boy Cruise. If Snyder spurns the DC area and fans boycott do you suppose he'd rename the controversial team name and then move the them to LA?

Again, what I wrote was just a rumor that had nothing to do with Snyder moving the team (I'm sure he won't). I was just talking about him allegedly owning (sort of) land that the NFL is interested in for a team in Los Angeles

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Again, what I wrote was just a rumor that had nothing to do with Snyder moving the team (I'm sure he won't). I was just talking about him allegedly owning (sort of) land that the NFL is interested in for a team in Los Angeles

I wish he'd sell this one and start fresh with a new team in LA but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Again, what I wrote was just a rumor that had nothing to do with Snyder moving the team (I'm sure he won't). I was just talking about him allegedly owning (sort of) land that the NFL is interested in for a team in Los Angeles

Yeah...I'm just tangenting on an imaginary topic. How offended would you be if that took place.

Mayflower style, up and move to LA. I think we'd get a new team to DC but you know they wouldn't give us the name Redskins again due to it's (perceived) derogatory nature.

...I'd have to kill someone if that happened.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I heard a rumor, don't know how legit it is, that Snyder could actually play a big role in a franchise move to LA. Supposedly he owns (through Six Flags) a major plot of land that is considered a prime location for a stadium. I mean I don't think he has any plan to move the Redskins but still I thought it was interesting

Anyway, as someone who has been a fan for, well, a long time, I'm wondering if in previous lean times (the 60s for example), there was the same backlash or was there not because there weren't the same means of communication that there are now.

Hard to say, there are still a million times the people that follow the Redskins only by paper and water cooler and wouldn't see any sort of combined group effort unless spread by more common forms of media, somehow if you got the press into it.. the radio shows, papers, etc

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I heard a rumor, don't know how legit it is, that Snyder could actually play a big role in a franchise move to LA. Supposedly he owns (through Six Flags) a major plot of land that is considered a prime location for a stadium. I mean I don't think he has any plan to move the Redskins but still I thought it was interesting

Anyway, as someone who has been a fan for, well, a long time, I'm wondering if in previous lean times (the 60s for example), there was the same backlash or was there not because there weren't the same means of communication that there are now.

To be honest I don't ever remember a time in the history of the Redskins organization when there was the kind of backlash we've begun to see lately. I went to my first Redskin game two yrs. before Sammy Baugh retired, and all through the years after his retirement we experienced some pretty bad teams until the arival of Vince Lombardi, then George Allen. Fans grew disenchanted during those times as well, but nothing like what we're seeing now.

That rumor about a move to LA I had heard as well that's why I mentioned it the wsay I did in mjy post. It was not something however, I had lend much credence too.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

To be honest I don't ever remember a time in the history of the Redskins organization when there was the kind of backlash we've begun to see lately. I went to my first Redskin game two yrs. before Sammy Baugh retired, and all through the years after his retirement we experienced some pretty bad teams until the arival of Vince Lombardi, then George Allen. Fans grew disenchanted during those times as well, but nothing like what we're seeing now.

That rumor about a move to LA I had heard as well that's why I mentioned it the wsay I did in mjy post. It was not something however, I had lend much credence too.

Two years before Baugh retired...that's awesome!

Anyhow, I mean I know there have been some really bad Redskins teams back in the day so why do you think there is backlash now that wasn't there before?

[DFI]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Two years before Baugh retired...that's awesome!

Anyhow, I mean I know there have been some really bad Redskins teams back in the day so why do you think there is backlash now that wasn't there before?

that's what I was thinking talk about back in the day.

I know you didn't ask me about why but i think part of it has to do with the money involved. my family sent me and my son to two games for a BD present two years ago. the tickets came from ebay and stub hub but it set us back well over $1,000 for two days of football, that is not including travel and hotel

when you are spending the money we are talking about and the ownership just jacks up prices and won't get around their ego to put a quaility team together, we have a right to be upset.

you only have to hope they will listen

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Two years before Baugh retired...that's awesome!

Anyhow, I mean I know there have been some really bad Redskins teams back in the day so why do you think there is backlash now that wasn't there before?

Much may have to do with the expanded fan base. There was not as much interest in the Redskins then from the far away places like it is now. By Washington being a transit city it draws people from around the country who take up residence here for various reasons, but not neccessarily Redskin fans.

For a longtime to many DC residents the Redskins were an afterthought. Mr. Marshall had alienated the African American community to the extent they would not attend games because of his policies regarding African American players. When Marshall sold the team fan interest increased despite the fact the teams were not good. George Allen did more to energize the fanbase here than any other coach in modern times except Joe Gibbs. Under his guidance the team became a winner again and fans showed their support.

I was ten yrs. old when my Father & Uncle took me to my first Redskin game. We would go to Church right across the street from old Griffith Stadium at the "Happy Am I" Church, pastored by Elder "Lightfoot" Soloman Michaux. Season tickets for lower deck seats were $24.00 Beer 10cents a bottle. My Uncle was an Usher at Griffith Stadium when the Homestead Grays played baseball there..........Lot's of memories.

[TheSmurfs22]

Stop going to games, stop buying gear and stop giving Snyder your money. That is how it is going to hurt him. Until this happens he is a happy man.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Stop going to games, stop buying gear and stop giving Snyder your money. That is how it is going to hurt him. Until this happens he is a happy man.

Fans are reluctant to atempt at following his thought process if he gets the feeling of being undermined, or underapreciated. He may resort to the same type knee-jerk reaction to the fans he does towards his coaches. I'm praying he'll eventually hear the cries of the people.

[Hog1]

Move the team?
..............Blaspheme.........

[DFI]

I guess one of the best things we can do is post and email everywhere we can. voice our displeasure with the way the team is being run. I haven't been to a game in two years cause I don't live local nor do I have the budget. but I am starting to light up every board I can and comment on every blog post and online story that allows it. I don't know what else to do.

We can only hope that everyone will voice their front office displeasure in every means possible

[DFI]

i agree i am encouraged at the backlash (as wierd as that sounds) I have been training my son in the skins way, taken him to games taught him about the history of the team we have a decent amount of skins stuff and he is pretty well up to speed on team history. the sad thing is he is 16 and hasn't been around for any of the good stuff.

if things don't chage it will be a long time till things look up

[BrennanBeliever]

The simple fact is that technology has stripped the american society of a collective, unifying voice. We are opinionated passive observers each with an individual perspective slightly deafened by the next.

How was so much accomplished during the civil rights movement without the advent of modern technology? A organized, consolidated effort by a minority of like minded revolutionaries advocating positive and proactive change.

If you love this team as I do, lets take a diligent and concerted stand against those in percieved positions of authority and power.

We converge upon Redskins Park in throngs with a universal mantra, like " We love this team but things must change." The media will cover the spectical and it will send the ripple effect across Redskins Nation and a proclamation to Daniel Snyder that we will no longer be subjugated by small minds and deep pockets.

In short we take our team back.

Constructive thoughts and ideas welcome. Please no minutiae.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by BrennanBeliever

The simple fact is that technology has stripped the american society of a collective, unifying voice. We are opinionated passive observers each with an individual perspective slightly deafened by the next.

How was so much accomplished during the civil rights movement without the advent of modern technology? A organized, consolidated effort by a minority of like minded revolutionaries advocating positive and proactive change.

If you love this team as I do, lets take a diligent and concerted stand against those in percieved positions of authority and power.

We converge upon Redskins Park in throngs with a universal montra, like " We love this team but things must change." The media will cover the spectical and it will send the ripple effect across Redskins Nation and a proclaimation to Daniel Snyder that we will no longer be subjugated by small minds and deep pockets.

In short we take our team back.

Constructive thoughts and ideas welcome. Please no minutiae.

It'll be hard proving it's our team since we don't possess the keys to Redskins Park.