is there a way that we the fans can be heard???

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Being a long time fan and supporter of the Redskins, and having the opportunity to speak with many others like myself, espically on game day, I get the feeling the psyche of many DC fans has been damaged. We suffered the loss of two Baseball teams and it took more than thirty yrs. to get another franchise after the last one moved to Texas.
It was a long and painful time trying to get over the dismay of not having Baseball in the nations capitol.

Fans here really love the Redskins, and when I say damaged psyche, we put up with a lot, trying our level best not to alienate the powers that be for fear one day Daniel Snyder might pull a Bob Short, or a Robert Irsay, and we wake up one day and find out our team will be moving to LA. This may sound crazy to some of the younger fans that are not old enough to remember Baseball leaving Washington twice, for some of us oldtimers we realize it could be a legitimate concern. Of course we pray to God this will not happen to our football team, but memories of Baseball is still (after all these years) still fresh in our minds.

I heard a rumor, don't know how legit it is, that Snyder could actually play a big role in a franchise move to LA. Supposedly he owns (through Six Flags) a major plot of land that is considered a prime location for a stadium. I mean I don't think he has any plan to move the Redskins but still I thought it was interesting

Anyway, as someone who has been a fan for, well, a long time, I'm wondering if in previous lean times (the 60s for example), there was the same backlash or was there not because there weren't the same means of communication that there are now.

[drew54]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I heard a rumor, don't know how legit it is, that Snyder could actually play a big role in a franchise move to LA. Supposedly he owns (through Six Flags) a major plot of land that is considered a prime location for a stadium. I mean I don't think he has any plan to move the Redskins but still I thought it was interesting

Anyway, as someone who has been a fan for, well, a long time, I'm wondering if in previous lean times (the 60s for example), there was the same backlash or was there not because there weren't the same means of communication that there are now.

Probably the only way many of us could make a clean break from Dan without a feeling of guilt.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I heard a rumor, don't know how legit it is, that Snyder could actually play a big role in a franchise move to LA. Supposedly he owns (through Six Flags) a major plot of land that is considered a prime location for a stadium. I mean I don't think he has any plan to move the Redskins but still I thought it was interesting

Anyway, as someone who has been a fan for, well, a long time, I'm wondering if in previous lean times (the 60s for example), there was the same backlash or was there not because there weren't the same means of communication that there are now.

Wow that just gave me chills.

Going to games is okay imho because tickets are sold out allready. But dont buy tickets from Stubhub, buy from craigslist or ebay. Wearing brown bags to games, however; is a great idea. Not buying anything at games INCLUDING BEER is a great idea. Only buying knock off Chinese jerseys on eBay is a good idea. And keep posting disappointment comments on messages boards is smart. I listen to a lot of sports radio and fans finnally seem to be calling up and voicing their concern, usually in Richmond no one calls (including myself), so start calling and ALWAYS include some disappointment in the ownership in addition to whatever you might you have to say.

I think just dont stop. I mean look what complacency has gotten us. Look whats saying danny s. wants whats best, he wants the same as us, has given us. Look what saying well cerrato has made some good draft moves in the later rounds, lets not think about the other things has done. Look what saying hey EVERYONE admits the oline is the biggest weakness lets just ignore drafting there because jersey sales take a huge hit if we do has brought this team.

Go to Kings Dominion and Bush Gardens not Six Flags. Buy knock off Redskins gear online not the genuine products from Redskins Stores, redskins.com or even cheap little nick naks like koozies and decals from grocery stores.

Fuck Authentic. Buy Knock Off, if you really love this team. Not just for the rest of this season but until we are legit contenders or ownership has materially changed. If you think any royalties may end up in dannys pocket dont buy. When in doubt just move on.

If you can Stop Caring thats the biggest way to be heard. Thats the hardest thing to do, but maybe the most meaningful. Start routing for you back up teams.

Support your passion not the ownership!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Wow that just gave me chills.

Going to games is okay imho because tickets are sold out allready. But dont buy tickets from Stubhub, buy from craigslist or ebay. Wearing brown bags to games, however; is a great idea. Not buying anything at games INCLUDING BEER is a great idea. Only buying knock off Chinese jerseys on eBay is a good idea. And keep posting disappointment comments on messages boards is smart. I listen to a lot of sports radio and fans finnally seem to be calling up and voicing their concern, usually in Richmond no one calls (including myself), so start calling and ALWAYS include some disappointment in the ownership in addition to whatever you might you have to say.

I think just dont stop. I mean look what complacency has gotten us. Look whats saying danny s. wants whats best, he wants the same as us, has given us. Look what saying well cerrato has made some good draft moves in the later rounds, lets not think about the other things has done. Look what saying hey EVERYONE admits the oline is the biggest weakness lets just ignore drafting there because jersey sales take a huge hit if we do has brought this team.

Go to Kings Dominion and Bush Gardens not Six Flags. Buy knock off Redskins gear online not the genuine products from Redskins Stores, redskins.com or even cheap little nick naks like koozies and decals from grocery stores.

Fuck Authentic. Buy Knock Off, if you really love this team. Not just for the rest of this season but until we are legit contenders or ownership has materially changed. If you think any royalties may end up in dannys pocket dont buy. When in doubt just move on.

If you can Stop Caring thats the biggest way to be heard. Thats the hardest thing to do, but maybe the most meaningful. Start routing for you back up teams.

Support your passion not the ownership!

Many fans are also disenchanted with the idea of having to pay for season tickets so far in advance. We think of all the interest paid on that money before we even take a seat, none of which trickles down to anything benificial to the fans. Going to a game is a very expensive proposition anymore, couple that with how the team is being managed, fans are more and more just getting fed up.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I heard a rumor, don't know how legit it is, that Snyder could actually play a big role in a franchise move to LA. Supposedly he owns (through Six Flags) a major plot of land that is considered a prime location for a stadium. I mean I don't think he has any plan to move the Redskins but still I thought it was interesting

Anyway, as someone who has been a fan for, well, a long time, I'm wondering if in previous lean times (the 60s for example), there was the same backlash or was there not because there weren't the same means of communication that there are now.

Snyder would be an idiot to even consider moving to the team. He'd better pay for some bodyguards cause there would be an all out riot in DC.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I heard a rumor, don't know how legit it is, that Snyder could actually play a big role in a franchise move to LA. Supposedly he owns (through Six Flags) a major plot of land that is considered a prime location for a stadium. I mean I don't think he has any plan to move the Redskins but still I thought it was interesting

Anyway, as someone who has been a fan for, well, a long time, I'm wondering if in previous lean times (the 60s for example), there was the same backlash or was there not because there weren't the same means of communication that there are now.

Along with that rumor, maybe Tom Cruise has a role in securing a franchise for the Los Angeles area. Snyder could have something in the works with his boy Cruise. If Snyder spurns the DC area and fans boycott do you suppose he'd rename the controversial team name and then move the them to LA?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Along with that rumor, maybe Tom Cruise has a role in securing a franchise for the Los Angeles area. Snyder could have something in the works with his boy Cruise. If Snyder spurns the DC area and fans boycott do you suppose he'd rename the controversial team name and then move the them to LA?

Again, what I wrote was just a rumor that had nothing to do with Snyder moving the team (I'm sure he won't). I was just talking about him allegedly owning (sort of) land that the NFL is interested in for a team in Los Angeles

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Again, what I wrote was just a rumor that had nothing to do with Snyder moving the team (I'm sure he won't). I was just talking about him allegedly owning (sort of) land that the NFL is interested in for a team in Los Angeles

I wish he'd sell this one and start fresh with a new team in LA but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I wish he'd sell this one and start fresh with a new team in LA but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

Maybe he can pawn the Skins off on Limbaugh.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Maybe he can pawn the Skins off on Limbaugh.

Limbaugh has forgotten more about football than Snyder or Vinny will ever know. Rush is going to be one of the best owners in the NFL. Put money on it.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Limbaugh has forgotten more about football than Snyder or Vinny will ever know. Rush is going to be one of the best owners in the NFL. Put money on it.

Rush is as close today as he will ever get to owning an NFL team which is to say nowhere close.

On topic, the only way to 'get your voice heard' is to try to embarass ownership. Either by a mass walk out or by some kind of propaganda (I love the paper plates with the picture of Vinny and the line drawn through it) but good luck getting those into the stadium. Instead of booing the players, I'd love to hear an organized college basketball-like chant of 'FIRE VINNY'.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Again, what I wrote was just a rumor that had nothing to do with Snyder moving the team (I'm sure he won't). I was just talking about him allegedly owning (sort of) land that the NFL is interested in for a team in Los Angeles

Yeah...I'm just tangenting on an imaginary topic. How offended would you be if that took place.

Mayflower style, up and move to LA. I think we'd get a new team to DC but you know they wouldn't give us the name Redskins again due to it's (perceived) derogatory nature.

...I'd have to kill someone if that happened.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Yeah...I'm just tangenting on an imaginary topic. How offended would you be if that took place.

Mayflower style, up and move to LA. I think we'd get a new team to DC but you know they wouldn't give us the name Redskins again due to it's (perceived) derogatory nature.

...I'd have to kill someone if that happened.

It would totally suck if he up and moved the franchise...unless he moved it up here to Connecticut

Seriously though, the Washington Redskins belong in DC (or Virginia and Maryland as is the current case)...though I wouldn't kill anyone if it happened

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Yeah...I'm just tangenting on an imaginary topic. How offended would you be if that took place.

Mayflower style, up and move to LA. I think we'd get a new team to DC but you know they wouldn't give us the name Redskins again due to it's (perceived) derogatory nature.

...I'd have to kill someone if that happened.

I don't think DS would be able to get 22 other owners to approve a move.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I don't think DS would be able to get 22 other owners to approve a move.

Not only that but he'd never move from an area that he can still make money in to an area that can't really hold a team.