is there a way that we the fans can be heard???

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I heard a rumor, don't know how legit it is, that Snyder could actually play a big role in a franchise move to LA. Supposedly he owns (through Six Flags) a major plot of land that is considered a prime location for a stadium. I mean I don't think he has any plan to move the Redskins but still I thought it was interesting

Anyway, as someone who has been a fan for, well, a long time, I'm wondering if in previous lean times (the 60s for example), there was the same backlash or was there not because there weren't the same means of communication that there are now.

To be honest I don't ever remember a time in the history of the Redskins organization when there was the kind of backlash we've begun to see lately. I went to my first Redskin game two yrs. before Sammy Baugh retired, and all through the years after his retirement we experienced some pretty bad teams until the arival of Vince Lombardi, then George Allen. Fans grew disenchanted during those times as well, but nothing like what we're seeing now.

That rumor about a move to LA I had heard as well that's why I mentioned it the wsay I did in mjy post. It was not something however, I had lend much credence too.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

To be honest I don't ever remember a time in the history of the Redskins organization when there was the kind of backlash we've begun to see lately. I went to my first Redskin game two yrs. before Sammy Baugh retired, and all through the years after his retirement we experienced some pretty bad teams until the arival of Vince Lombardi, then George Allen. Fans grew disenchanted during those times as well, but nothing like what we're seeing now.

That rumor about a move to LA I had heard as well that's why I mentioned it the wsay I did in mjy post. It was not something however, I had lend much credence too.

Two years before Baugh retired...that's awesome!

Anyhow, I mean I know there have been some really bad Redskins teams back in the day so why do you think there is backlash now that wasn't there before?

[DFI]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Two years before Baugh retired...that's awesome!

Anyhow, I mean I know there have been some really bad Redskins teams back in the day so why do you think there is backlash now that wasn't there before?

that's what I was thinking talk about back in the day.

I know you didn't ask me about why but i think part of it has to do with the money involved. my family sent me and my son to two games for a BD present two years ago. the tickets came from ebay and stub hub but it set us back well over $1,000 for two days of football, that is not including travel and hotel

when you are spending the money we are talking about and the ownership just jacks up prices and won't get around their ego to put a quaility team together, we have a right to be upset.

you only have to hope they will listen

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Two years before Baugh retired...that's awesome!

Anyhow, I mean I know there have been some really bad Redskins teams back in the day so why do you think there is backlash now that wasn't there before?

Much may have to do with the expanded fan base. There was not as much interest in the Redskins then from the far away places like it is now. By Washington being a transit city it draws people from around the country who take up residence here for various reasons, but not neccessarily Redskin fans.

For a longtime to many DC residents the Redskins were an afterthought. Mr. Marshall had alienated the African American community to the extent they would not attend games because of his policies regarding African American players. When Marshall sold the team fan interest increased despite the fact the teams were not good. George Allen did more to energize the fanbase here than any other coach in modern times except Joe Gibbs. Under his guidance the team became a winner again and fans showed their support.

I was ten yrs. old when my Father & Uncle took me to my first Redskin game. We would go to Church right across the street from old Griffith Stadium at the "Happy Am I" Church, pastored by Elder "Lightfoot" Soloman Michaux. Season tickets for lower deck seats were $24.00 Beer 10cents a bottle. My Uncle was an Usher at Griffith Stadium when the Homestead Grays played baseball there..........Lot's of memories.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I was ten yrs. old when my Father & Uncle took me to my first Redskin game. We would go to Church right across the street from old Griffith Stadium at the "Happy Am I" Church, pastored by Elder "Lightfoot" Soloman Michaux. Season tickets for lower deck seats were $24.00 Beer 10cents a bottle. My Uncle was an Usher at Griffith Stadium when the Homestead Grays played baseball there..........Lot's of memories.

Your username isn't a joke

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Much may have to do with the expanded fan base. There was not as much interest in the Redskins then from the far away places like it is now. By Washington being a transit city it draws people from around the country who take up residence here for various reasons, but not neccessarily Redskin fans.

For a longtime to many DC residents the Redskins were an afterthought. Mr. Marshall had alienated the African American community to the extent they would not attend games because of his policies regarding African American players. When Marshall sold the team fan interest increased despite the fact the teams were not good. George Allen did more to energize the fanbase here than any other coach in modern times except Joe Gibbs. Under his guidance the team became a winner again and fans showed their support.

I was ten yrs. old when my Father & Uncle took me to my first Redskin game. We would go to Church right across the street from old Griffith Stadium at the "Happy Am I" Church, pastored by Elder "Lightfoot" Soloman Michaux. Season tickets for lower deck seats were $24.00 Beer 10cents a bottle. My Uncle was an Usher at Griffith Stadium when the Homestead Grays played baseball there..........Lot's of memories.

It's hard seeing this isn't it Longtimefan? I know it's very hard for me. I love this team. Joe Gibbs, the Hogs, etc. Some of my best memories.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

It's hard seeing this isn't it Longtimefan? I know it's very hard for me. I love this team. Joe Gibbs, the Hogs, etc. Some of my best memories.

You're not alone 53, the Joe Gibbs years were the best in the history of this storid franchise. His early reign here was my reason for getting out of bed on Sunday morning.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I was ten yrs. old when my Father & Uncle took me to my first Redskin game. We would go to Church right across the street from old Griffith Stadium at the "Happy Am I" Church, pastored by Elder "Lightfoot" Soloman Michaux. Season tickets for lower deck seats were $24.00 Beer 10cents a bottle. My Uncle was an Usher at Griffith Stadium when the Homestead Grays played baseball there..........Lot's of memories.

My Mom and Dad used to tell me about going to Griffith Stadium and watching Eddie LeBaron play. Some of my best memories growing up were centered around the Skins. It's hard right now, but have faith, we'll get back to the good times. Thanks to Matty and the other mods we've got a pretty visible platform here and you can be sure the folks at Redskin Park see this stuff.