Looking ahead, it's only going to get worse

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS1980

well as the season continues and the redskins continue to handout winless teams their first victory. It doesnt look good for the moral of the team. Me personnally, I dont put no blame on the Snyder, he has done everything possible to bring talent and turn this organization into a top contender. We as fans have gotten used to the way he constantly made changes, that we now expect him to be his old quick trigger self. He is finally giving an opportunity to a 1st time coach, following the guidelines that Joe Gibbs said this team needs longevity. And we are ready to jump ship. Call me crazy, but I am impressed by the way Snyder has taken this whole situation.

I couldn't disagree with you more about Dan Snyder. He is at the root of all of the Redskins' problems. His insistence on being involved in personnel matters through a puppet GM and his hiring of a man who is not qualified to be an NFL Head Coach to lead the team are the primary reasons we are in this mess.

[REDSKINS1980]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I couldn't disagree with you more about Dan Snyder. He is at the root of all of the Redskins' problems. His insistence on being involved in personnel matters through a puppet GM and his hiring of a man who is not qualified to be an NFL Head Coach to lead the team are the primary reasons we are in this mess.

Well it must the the "Jerry Jones Complex". Win today, not tomorrow.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I couldn't disagree with you more about Dan Snyder. He is at the root of all of the Redskins' problems. His insistence on being involved in personnel matters through a puppet GM and his hiring of a man who is not qualified to be an NFL Head Coach to lead the team are the primary reasons we are in this mess.

I am sure I am all alone at this point, and I don't really mean to be rude, but it seems like all DCPSR brings to this forum is anti-snyder crud. Certainly it is easy enough to bash this team in its current state, and you guys make good use of this forum to excel at that. But can you back up any of your statements. Cerrato as much as people hate him, served his dues and deserved a shot as much as any other possible GM, the fact that he has messed up on the Oline shows it wasn't a great hire, but saying he is DS' puppet is just fueling stupid speculation. And I know alot of fans who now are done with Zorn, including myself, supported the outside of the box hire, and hoped it would be the start of a new tradition. Again, it wasn't it failed, and I imagine after a two year trial, both Cerrato and Zorn will be let go.

I am not defending where we are, but just riding the crest of frustration to endlessly attack the owner seems petty.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am sure I am all alone at this point, and I don't really mean to be rude, but it seems like all DCPSR brings to this forum is anti-snyder crud. Certainly it is easy enough to bash this team in its current state, and you guys make good use of this forum to excel at that. But can you back up any of your statements. Cerrato as much as people hate him, served his dues and deserved a shot as much as any other possible GM, the fact that he has messed up on the Oline shows it wasn't a great hire, but saying he is DS' puppet is just fueling stupid speculation. And I know alot of fans who now are done with Zorn, including myself, supported the outside of the box hire, and hoped it would be the start of a new tradition. Again, it wasn't it failed, and I imagine after a two year trial, both Cerrato and Zorn will be let go.

I am not defending where we are, but just riding the crest of frustration to endlessly attack the owner seems petty.

I know what you mean, because I have been bashing Snyder and Cerrato a lot lately. It's getting old even for me, a contributor to said bashing.

Although it is a tired argument, it is the absolute truth in my mind. The evidence for that being, Cerrato was hired in 1999 when Snyder purchased the team, and has been here ever since, except for a short period when Schottenhiemer fired him. The very next season, Marty was fired and Cerrato re-hired. During his time here, Cerrato has only served to weaken this team, yet he continues to keep his job -- in fact getting a promotion in 2002. Our personnel is a mess and so is our cap -- all attributable to Vinny. He's been here 10 years -- certainly long enough to get things in order, or for Snyder to realize he ain't cuttin' it. How Vinny keeps his job is either a great mystery of the universe, or he's Snyder's butt-buddy.