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Old 10-15-2009, 06:34 PM   #1
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Samuels--Dock--Montgomery/Rabach--Rinehart--Rookie

Rookie--Dock--Montgomery/Rabach--Rinehart--Rookie

i dont think it looks so bad for the future as long as we draft o-line in the first round...
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:50 PM   #2
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Samuels--Dock--Montgomery/Rabach--Rinehart--Rookie

Rookie--Dock--Montgomery/Rabach--Rinehart--Rookie

i dont think it looks so bad for the future as long as we draft o-line in the first round...
Monty did fill in fair when RT went down. And he is a center as well.

It will be interesting to see how he holds up this Sunday for a whole game at Right Guard.

I think Casey is running out of time, in the big picture, maybe one more year, best case.

Don't think we have to much in Rhino as of now. Hope he develops.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:47 PM   #3
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If this is the end of Samuels' career I'll be sad it ended this way, in the midst of the most disappointing season I've seen in a long time bar none. Health is way more important than football so obviously if he does hang it up I wish him the best. God knows I ain't old enough to judge whether he's been up there with all the Redskins greats but he deserves his spot because he just gave us 10 solid years of left tackle play, which can't be taken for granted in this league.

And I'd love to wish and hope that this would be the catalyst for change that the Redskins need but at this point I wouldn't be suprised if the status quo remained the same and Vinny/Dan kept on keepin' on like they always do.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:47 PM   #4
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Good job Vinny. Your dedication to best player available is to be commended. How about we put Devin Thomas at LT. It's not like he's catching passes.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:00 AM   #5
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Good job Vinny. Your dedication to best player available is to be commended. How about we put Devin Thomas at LT. It's not like he's catching passes.
To be fair, Orakpo was too good to pass up.


I do agree that we should have addressed the line before LAST year, but that's in the past.

It's sad to see Samuels end it this way, but he needs to walk away while he can still walk. We've been lucky to have him, Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen all of these years, but the era is over. I believe Randy is finished too. He just can't stay healthy even with his intense training and hard work to get back.
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To be fair, Orakpo was too good to pass up.
I definitely agree with that. However this goes deeper then the 13th pick. In 2008 they only chose one offensive lineman. In 2009 they didn't even take a shot during the draft. They've hedged their bets with other positions like WR and LB however when it comes to the OL they just haven't done anything worthwhile. At the very least they should have signed Ray Willis to compliment the signing of Dockery. Now we're in the middle of 2009 with our two best offensive lineman possibly out for the year.

There were plenty of quality lineman in the draft in 2009 that possibly could have helped us. Tony Kropog, Jonathan Luigs, Seth Olsen, Fenuki Tupou, Jamon Merideth, Duke Robinson, and Herman Johnson. All players that we could only benefit from having on our team at this point. Maybe they wouldn't have been all-pro's but it certainly couldn't be much worse then what we have now.

I fear that if Vinny has total control with the draft again our first pick will be a CB.
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:49 PM   #7
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I definitely agree with that. However this goes deeper then the 13th pick. In 2008 they only chose one offensive lineman. In 2009 they didn't even take a shot during the draft. They've hedged their bets with other positions like WR and LB however when it comes to the OL they just haven't done anything worthwhile. At the very least they should have signed Ray Willis to compliment the signing of Dockery. Now we're in the middle of 2009 with our two best offensive lineman possibly out for the year.

There were plenty of quality lineman in the draft in 2009 that possibly could have helped us. Tony Kropog, Jonathan Luigs, Seth Olsen, Fenuki Tupou, Jamon Merideth, Duke Robinson, and Herman Johnson. All players that we could only benefit from having on our team at this point. Maybe they wouldn't have been all-pro's but it certainly couldn't be much worse then what we have now.

I fear that if Vinny has total control with the draft again our first pick will be a CB.
Duke Robinson and TJ Lang were both players I thought we should have picked up over henson and glenn
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Duke Robinson and TJ Lang were both players I thought we should have picked up over henson and glenn
Duke Robinson should have been a no brainer. Especially since Cody Glenn is in Indy now. We needed OL, and a guy was on the board who was projected as a 2nd rounder.
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Re: If Chris Samuels does retire..?

In related news in Zorns press talk today on Washington Redskin.com, he said the team would be bringing in some O-Line guys to take a look at. The video was just released in the last 1/2 hour.

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Posted by Tom Curran on October 16, 2009 3:52 PM ET

The hits keep coming for the Washington Redskins. Citing "league sources" the Washington Post is reporting that Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels may be done for the year.

That was pretty much what we feared the other day when we saw Gregg Rosenthal's post the other day that said the 32-year-old was suffering from spinal stenosis, which is a narrowing of the spine, and that Washington coach Jim Zorn said the team was "still working through" his long-term prognosis.

Stephon Heyer will replace Samuels, according to the Post, while Mike Williams -- who made his first NFL start since 2005 last Sunday -- kicks out to right guard.

Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic is what they call it, I believe.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:36 PM   #10
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in related news in zorns press talk today on washington redskin.com, he said the team would be bringing in some o-line guys to take a look at. The video was just released in the last 1/2 hour.

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posted by tom curran on october 16, 2009 3:52 pm et

the hits keep coming for the washington redskins. Citing "league sources" the washington post is reporting that pro bowl left tackle chris samuels may be done for the year.

That was pretty much what we feared the other day when we saw gregg rosenthal's post the other day that said the 32-year-old was suffering from spinal stenosis, which is a narrowing of the spine, and that washington coach jim zorn said the team was "still working through" his long-term prognosis.

Stephon heyer will replace samuels, according to the post, while mike williams -- who made his first nfl start since 2005 last sunday -- kicks out to right guard.

rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic is what they call it, i believe.
lmao!!

Seriously though, I've got to think there are some guys out there who could come in and contribute.
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--Heyer--Dock--Rabach--Montgomery--Williams--

starting line for the chiefs. the interior isnt too bad. those tackles...man they could get a lot of pressure on the edge.
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Old 10-16-2009, 04:25 PM   #12
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Is it not clear, whether if Rhino is hurt or not? If Rhino isn't, then why the hell isn't he on the field? From what I have seen on games (granted, I'm not experienced in this field) but he looks alright.. He may not be great as we hoped him to be, but I think he still has some potentials though?
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Is it not clear, whether if Rhino is hurt or not? If Rhino isn't, then why the hell isn't he on the field? From what I have seen on games (granted, I'm not experienced in this field) but he looks alright.. He may not be great as we hoped him to be, but I think he still has some potentials though?
Supposedly Rhino has an ailing shoulder...? Listen to Zorn talking to media today, he discusses this.

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Appears Rhino thinks he still can play, regardless of the pain..

Redskins Insider - Rhino: Battered Shoulder, Bruised Ego
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Appears Rhino thinks he still can play, regardless of the pain..

Redskins Insider - Rhino: Battered Shoulder, Bruised Ego
Yes but he also said it's weak and it's a matter of getting the strength back so he can stay on his blocks. He even said it would probably be a game time decision. Doesn't sound like someone you would want to start. I actually understand the decision to start Montgomery better now.
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